Is it because JC was the embodiment of humility? Or is it because pride, which is always false pride, distorts the structure of one’s own reality? Makes you believe you’re above the laws that govern nature?.. Asking for a friend hehe
Mungu wenu hapendi compe,its that simple,if he made everyone equal,that puts him at the top therefore,nugu haiezi ringa ati yeye ndio kusema
coz it comes before a fall.
fall into the burning pit.
and talking about burning pits
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how does that concern you… today, God has shown mercy on you and given you breath and is knocking at you heart… za shetani wachana nazo
true that.
but i will ask again,
wouldn’t it be easier for God to forgive everybody including the devil and we all lived as one big happy family?
but I hope every religion is right about who they claim to be their creator. it would be a shame to be on the wrong side of it all
Hypotheticals in faith area a waste of time… don’t strain your brain trying to solve what you think would be better… just do your part and if ypu don’t believe, he is not forcing you…
Siku hizi mko na atheistic religious books and even a “church” where you congregate and take OFFERINGS and TITHES. Google atheist churches.
One wonders why you would desire to copy the Christians.
Asking for KQ, they are the Pride of Africa.
am an Agnostic.
i believe in a higher being but not that depicted by the religions
Pride interrupts intuition, absent a humble soul one lacks empathy thus the rest of the sins follow.
I also asked myself so then I came to these conclusions:
God had Lucifer, because of pride he rebelled.
He then created Adam and Eve,they sinned.
I think he decided he loves his creation,instead of eternal punishment like Lucifer’s,he will let them live and choose for themselves,those who choose his side then he will work with them,those who choose Lucifer side will be destroyed.
So all generations are being sieved.
It’s like starting from the end backwards.Its a long process because of love and equal chance to all
Because pride deceives you(obad 1:3),and we know the work of the devil is to deceive and the lord hates the devil.
I am sure everyone would understand but it’s a bit complex your dealing with subjects with freewill and feelings .
looking at the real star wars in heaven it was easier to put an end to the Satan and be done with it.
since freewill exist the devil is allowed to prove its case the God doesn’t want to be loved out of fear but out of love
God knows what will happen in the future he already knew what would happen even before the earth’s foundation was laid and man would fall and a plan was made to redeem man.
The devil and the fallen ones cannot be forgiven since they are is no plan for them for redemption.
If the devil choose to be forgiven I think it would break character his part in the story is to decieve mankind
From the book
He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, 3and threw him into the pit, and locked and sealed it over him, so that he would deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be let out for a little while.
When the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will come out to deceive the nations at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, in order to gather them for battle; they are as numerous as the sands of the sea. 9They marched up over the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from heaven and consumed them.10 And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
The mofo never gets destroyed.
Imo the logical think would have reset the whole thing back to zero .maybe it has already been done and calculated or simulated and every outcome has eve falling for the same trick after 1 billion simulations got damn.
Again knowing the nature of the devil and his followers it would have been logical to put a barrier or no contact between them and man.
I had no idea I was tagged in this. Will return to it when I have more time.
from your points of view, I can conclude that there are those who are destined to go to Heaven and others to Hell, despite what they do on earth. (they will try to do evil but can’t and try to do good but can’t since its already predetermined on who they are and where they’ll end up)
since from all “simulations” or scenarios, Man fell/is of sin, so creating new beings with the hope that they will be good or not fall/have sin, isn’t giving them a fair chance. the system or life is already rigged for them to fail. (and doesn’t that make the one with sin more powerful)
can we assume the world isn’t over yet, the return of the Messiah, since the allocations/rooms in Heaven and/or in Hell aren’t all occupied?
i came to the conclusion that, the higher. greater being (God) has total control over the creations and can do what he chooses to them. punish, reward, forget you, remember you,…
This is why I admire Stoicsm, it’s relatable
Fallen angels remind me of the God’s of Greek tragedies
Our religion may be wrong…because religions are doctrines of men…but what we all need to do is find time and study and research the source of our faith…Faith and Religion are 2 different things…When Yeshua Hamashiach ascended into heaven,he left fellowship…not Christianity or any other religion…When he comes back for the “Church”,no building will ascend into heaven…but a group of people who have believed and totally surrendered to Him.The biggest problem in our lives today is the Church is in spiritual slumber…we let other people interprete the Bible for us…read to us excerpts of the Bible without putting them in full Bibilical context and this leads us to believe that u need man to interprete the Bible for us yet Yeshua left us with the gift of the Ruach Hakuadesh,the Holy Spirit…To solve this problem I propose the following:
1.Before u read the Bible,sit down over a weekend…take time to question and delete every doctine or belief you have been taught in Church.Be ready to start from scratch.
2.Sit down and question your faith…The only way to get answers is to seek answers…one of the Bibilical principles that apply in true life is “Seek and you shall find”…Whatever you seek in the physical and spiritual world with all your heart whether good or bad…you will find it.So u can start to seek the truth about your faith…so how can you do this?By information and Experience.
3.If you are to change a person…the only way to do it is to either limit or increase the amount of information or experience he/she has…On information…you should buy the Bible and study it for yourself first…i propose the King James Version and also the New King James Version…coz majority of other Bibles contain deleted texts in the name of translation…Ensure the Bible has clear footnotes…coz this will redirect you onto other places of scripture that elaborate the true meaning and context of that scripture.
4.On Experience…we need to understand that the Bible is a Spiritual Book not just any Physical text…it is possible to read the Bible directly and understand facts and principalities…But you need the power of the Holy Spirit to guide you…How do we do this?Prayer with an open heart…Prayer opens a spiritual door and Elohim sees that your seach of knowledge…Now you have to believe in Him and His ability to inspire you with the Ruach Hakuadesh…and He will then open your spiritual eye which means give you the gift of understanding and discernment…
5.Please do this when you are serious about wanting to gain His knowledge and Wisdom and not just for curiousity.Do not put Jehovah Jireh to a test…please.
6.Start reading the Gospels from the book of John…one chapter a day…read in the morning and in the evening just research anything that u did not understand…Now some things will not be clear at first…but as you continue to grow in faith and discernment they will become clearer…Our problem as the church is human nature is generally impatient…we live in an age of instant gratification…we want answers almost even before we finished asking a question…Our ways are not His ways…this is where faith comes in…This is where the Holy Spirit comes in…He will offer you the fruit of patience…Pray and leave the rest to Him…Believe in Jehovah Jireh and his ability to provide…Nothing is too hard for Him.Now answers may come in various ways from a Preacher,a saved friend or even from books or videos but we need to understand that all answers must be tested against the text of the Bible.Paul mentions that we have to test all spirits because not all spirits and voices are from Elohim.This is where we as a church fail.We dont conduct due dilligence on what our preachers give us in church because we do not even have a Bibilical foundation in our hearts…
7.Study the other Gospels and get to understand the persona of Jesus Christ of Nazareth and His purpose…once this is done…you can now start reading the Old Testament…
8.To finalize…we need to understand that Elohim our creator gave humanity the ability of free choice…He cannot come into your life unless he has a very special mission for you like in the case of Moses and Paul.You have to use your ability of free choice to open a spiritual door for Him to come in.He cannot force yourself into your life…you have to give Him a chance…the choice is yours.