Pimp Culture in Black America

Y’all know I love the history of African Americans. I study them a great deal. I listen to the thought leaders from the black community like Prof. Thomas Sowell btw he’s got a new documentary out, for those of you who are his fans. Cornell West, James Baldwin among others.

As Africans we are removed from the results of slavery or in our case colonialism. Our ancestors were slaves of the colonizers but in their own land. They were the majority and as they say there’s safety in numbers even when subjugated. They did not have any traumatic surplanting to foreign lands where they lost their identity and language and roots.

African Americans on the other hand are a minority. I believe about 13% of the population. African Americans are concentrated in inner city ghettos, what they call ghettos. The equivalent would be slums or shanties where large numbers are concentrated in poor neighborhoods. As underdogs, black Americans especially males have been forced to resort to underground economies like illegal gun running equivalent of small arms proliferation in the African context. Drug dealing and pimping.

Pimping is a very interesting culture. The Genesis of pimping was during slavery where if a white master took a liking to your wife and you comply then you would get preferential treatment for sharing your wife with the master. In marriage we find alot of parallels with the power structures of slavery, taking the name and identity of your master/husband and bearing offspring with the same surname. The white man recognized that power structure in marriage and therefore gave the husband and father of the black women he wanted the opportunity to cooperate or be killed. If the men complied they received preferential treatment. The defiant ones went through public buck breaking or feminization by rape by the white masters and if that did not work to subjugate the man he would be lynched as an example to the other black men that insubordination would not be tolerated. This is the real Genesis of the pimp Culture we see glorified in hip hop and rap. By both male and female rappers.

In poor communities the world over exploitation and predation is a way of life. So pimping actually targets vulnerable people usually children who have run away from home to escape abuse, women who are addicted to drugs, homeless, poor and disposed women and children.

The techniques used during slavery to break and subjugate blacks are the same methods used by pimps. Kidnapping or selling a woman whose trust you have won to a pimp, the same way, Africans were lured by people they trust or kidnapped then sold to the whites abode slave ships. Transportation to different states to ensure that the child/woman is not familiar with the environment and has no roots in the area to ensure that they cannot escape. The beating of the child/female prostitute if they do not reach the quotas, just as blacks would be beaten for not picking enough cotton to meet the quotas set by their masters.

There was also branding where slaves were branded with hot iron with the initials of their master, equivalent to tattooing of the prostitute with the pimps name. Dependency on the pimp via drug addiction, slave masters ensured that black slaves could not read and write or have any sense of independence to ensure dependency.

Human trafficking is the new slavery and it is a billion dollar industry. Essentially white nations perpetuate a more acceptable form of subjugation like neo colonialism in Africa where governments are like the prefects who facilitate the white nation’s and corporations to loot resources that benefit the white nations and the impoverishment of black Americans and incarceration to offer free labor to various white owned corporations. For 13% of the population to make up 60% of the prison population says alot.

How society works is capitalist and subjugation of one group by the other to form a hierarchy. Blacks are subjugated by whites. Women are subjugated by men. The poor are subjugated by the wealthy. The people who own 90% of the world’s wealth do not exceed 400 people. The remaining billions are living off the 10%. If you are part of the subjugated groups you will have a hard time escaping subjugation particularly if you belong to the lower echelons of the subjugated groups. Btw subjugation is so engrained in the minds of subjugated groups that it feels abnormal not follow the oppressors script. It’s a century old Stolkholm syndrome. The fact is that very few humans engage critical thinking most just follow the script they find. If you are black or if you are a woman you are being pimped. Your script is to be the beach or the punda of the white nation’s or to men especially once you enter formal arrangements with your oppressors. Women are subjugated by men in various non contractual interactions or arrangements such as if a man buys a woman food, alcohol or a phone and some perfume then she has taken the bait and has no choice but to rudisha mkono by having sex with the guy and is how date rape happens or to be exclusive to the guy meaning that if she takes the goodies and dates other men it’s OK to buy an axe and chop her up with it or even if the guy has never even bought you a sweet but you end up alone with him, you have to give him sex or he will rape you bcz what do you as a subjugated class expect when you are alone with a person who you know wants sex from you and is stronger than you but when the subjugation is formalised and the subjugating contract is sanctioned by the state it is looked upon as a benevolent dictatorship. The same way dependency on foreign aid is looked at as a benevolent dictatorship anyone would be lucky to have. Marriage and dependency on foreign aid manifests as the indentured servitude it is after the excitement dies down. If you look at global cashflows you will shocked to see that the beneficiaries of the current system is not the 3rd world countries receiving the so called Aid as we have been made to believe . It’s actually the first world country who benefit most. Same way it looks like a man is doing the woman a favor to marry her, only for it to end up as beneficial to only one person who is not the woman. The same way we as 3rd world glorify foreign aid and want it so much only to later realize it is a trap to enslave us.

The methodology is the same across the board. Apparently human nature is more predictable than it appears. Anytime you are about to be taken advantage of, you will always be shown how you are the main beneficiary and the other party is the benevolent one. Always without fail, it always ends up to be the opposite. From pimping, to gambling, to marriage, to foreign aid to pyramid schemes the ruse is always the same.

As I study more of the black American history and culture I understand society alot better. Black American society is a microcosm of the wider contextual framework of society as we know it. The aspect I am currently studying is the brainwashing of the black American community via pop culture, celebrated icons and hip hop culture. Blacks are constantly told that their niche is to be a sports person or an entertainer which is what blacks were allowed to excel in in the era of slavery. However the real money making aspects such as owning teams and record labels is dominated by whites. Noam Chomsky explains how society is brainwashed via media. In the black community it is on steroids. Anyway, that is another topic for another day.

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Dec 5, 2019·5 min read

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https://miro-medium-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/miro.medium.com/max/188/1*pAEHZ-PoyukvIQzaSarTGw.pngIn2019, the pimp is back. Just ask Doja Cat.
On her recently released sophomore album, Hot Pink, the 24-year-old artist leaves her psychedelic R&B behind for a steadfastly trap sound and a familiar persona. “Ooh, that’s my trick / I’m her pimp / She my flip,” she leads on “Bottom Bitch,” continuing: “She don’t create no problems / That’s why the bitch my bottom.” The album’s accompanying videos embrace the iconography as well: In “Rules,” Doja Cat romps through the desert in a purple outfit clutching a briefcase full of cash; in “Cyber Sex,” she plays a camgirl and Rocky Horror Picture Show-style mad scientist bent on alchemizing pleasure. It all amounts to a gender-flipped inversion of one of hip-hop’s oldest traditions — rappers explicitly pointing to pimping, and the overall objectification of women, as an aspiration on par with wealth and status.
It’s not just music. Pimp culture has popped up all across entertainment. Queen & Slimfeatures Bokeem Woodbine as Uncle Earl, a New Orleans pimp who gives the titular couple shelter and assistance. September saw the arrival of [I]Dolemite Is My Name[/I], a Rudy Ray Moore biopic starring Eddie Murphy as the comedian behind the blaxploitation film Dolemite. Zola, a tale of hustling gone wrong based on an infamous 2015 Twitter thread, wrapped production last year, making a 2020 release likely. In fact, from ’70s blaxploitation though Big Daddy Kane’s “Pimpin’ Ain’t Easy” and to the present day, the pimp-as-superhero motif has never truly gone away.
Yet, the world surrounding that motif has changed in significant ways. As we close out a decade in which intersectional feminism and social justice went from buzzwords to dogma, how does pimping fit into current culture? And more importantly, why is there no such conversation around the other half of the pimp-sex worker equation?
The remarkable thing about the pimp’s reascension in the zeitgeist is that sex trafficking — the coercive side of the sex-work industry, and one that pimping sometimes overlaps with — has become one of the current moment’s favorite moral panics. Law and Order: Special Victims Unit has turned the dramatization of sex crimes into the longest-running live-action show on prime time television. In 2018, Congress passed the Stop Enabling Sex Trafficking Act (SESTA) and the Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA), allegedly to make sex trafficking more difficult for traffickers. According to then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the laws represented “a major step toward keeping women and children across America safe.” (In reality, FOSTA-SESTA had immediate chilling effects across nontrafficking sex work, as popular platforms scrambled to cover their legal liability: Federal authorities shut down online sex portal Backpage, Craigslist squashed its personals section, and Tumblr introduced a controversial ban of pornographic images.)
Even outside of legislative momentum, sex trafficking has taken on new urgency. One recent Twitter thread highlighted an alleged kidnapping attempt through Lyft, garnering hundreds of thousands of impressions. The same day, the U.S. Department of Justice announced that it has awarded over $100 million to combat human trafficking and provide services and restitution for trafficked persons. People who conduct or appear to enable coercive sex trafficking even marginally get called out. In 2015, Drake received flak online for celebrating the release of Travis Savoury, also known as Baka Not Nice. Savoury had been imprisoned on human trafficking charges in 2014. (That didn’t stop Drake from signing Savoury to his OVO Sound label in 2017.) R. Kelly’s long-chronicled history of forcibly exploiting women reached a flashpoint this year only after a long legacy of whispers throughout the industry. After the Lifetime documentary Surviving R. Kelly brought renewed attention to the case, the renewed investigation resulted in the singer being arrested and charged with various crimes in July.
Yet, the pimp remains revered as an anti-establishment symbol. Doja Cat’s whiskered mob boss in “Rules,” like rap contemporaries City Girls and Asian Doll, upend the gender dynamic to turn hustling into a feminist tool, taking control of their sexuality and income at the same time. The same goes for madam Maeve Millay (Thandie Newton) on HBO’s Westworld. And in a time when American society sees racial and socioeconomic gaps widening instead of closing, what is pimping but a version of the same bootstrapping that tech culture valorizes? As Lisa Richardson described in a 2000 [I]Los Angeles Times[/I] story during an earlier wave of cultural fascination with pimping: “A real pimp is a businessman, not a junkie.”
What’s missing from all this, of course, are the actual people involved in the hustle of sexual labor, whether formerly trafficked women or gainfully employed sex workers. Sex workers who rely on the internet to conduct business have spoken out about how FOSTA-SESTA has damaged their livelihoods without necessarily stopping traffickers — yet there are precious few popular narratives about the realities faced by the targets and survivors of sex trafficking and/or pimping.
There’s fascination, to be sure. “There’s good parts of being a hoe, and there’s bad parts of being a hoe,” said comedian Luenell in an interview with VladTV earlier this year. “Especially back in the day, hoes… in my area of Oakland, California — them bitches were like movie stars.” The interview, interspersed with clips of real-life Oakland pimps Fillmore Slim and Don “Magic” Juan, is unapologetic and brash, portrays pimping as a neutral free-market phenomenon. A commenter seems to sum up the underlying attitude succinctly: “Its [sic] a fine line between pimping and sex trafficking. Consent is a must.”
Amidst all this, you might think critics would find Doja Cat’s dive into pimp imagery to be in bad taste. Not the case: Pitchfork’s Lakin Starling praised the artist’s versatility, stating that Doja Cat is “giving us her kinky, soulful, pop queen, and not-to-be-fucked with sides all at once.” The same review casually mentions that multiple songs on Hot Pink were co-written with pop auteur Dr. Luke. The producer, née Lukasz Gottwald, is six short years away from pop singer Kesha’s accusations of multiple instances of sexual abuse — yet he maintains a record imprint on RCA, to which he signed Doja Cat. In that murky light, Doja Cat’s choice of pimp imagery takes on new weight; is it the result of artistic license, or is she is being guided toward it by a man who stands to profit off the makeover?
One of the rare exceptions, and a possible corrective to the victimless view of pimping, is a video Buzzfeed released in 2017. “I Survived Sex Trafficking” presents the story of Tika, from her abduction at the age of 12 to her working under her pimp, to her freedom and current occupation as a crisis response case manager for trafficked women. Over the span of four minutes, Tika narrates her own story, looking directly at the viewer; there’s no room for pity or media sensationalizing.
Sex sells. We know this. Maybe it’s time we uncoupled pimping from sex, and see it for what it is: an exercise in power and control as well as an occupation. To dress up as a pimp for Halloween or a music video is perhaps no more sinister than dressing up as a cop or a predatory loan officer. But to foster an entertainment industry where pimps have platforms and sex-trafficking survivors don’t? That’s just patriarchy with a purple fedora.

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What are you trying to say about Black people and pimping? You have jumped through about 10 topics.

I am trying to say that subjugated classes such as black folk or African Americans and women, are programmed to think and act in certain ways which are not beneficial to them but they are too brainwashed and don’t know any other way of life. I’m going to bring in Noam Chomskys manufacturing of consent in another thread bcz I am still studying the topic and researching it. My point is that main source of entertainment and identity for black Americans is hio hop. Hip hop does not tell black kids that they can be doctors and space scientists.That one song of Nas was the exception. It tells them that they can be hoes, video vixens, pimps, drug runners, basically just criminals. Why is it that in white communities most sex workers do not have pimps while in the black or other minorities it’s a must? So white men cannot pimp their women but black men can pimp black women and white men can pimp black women. Of course there are a few outliers. To maintain a status quo the subjugated class must be kept in check or in a subjugated state. Do you know that if you are a black rapper and you start churning out great music that doesn’t glorify that ghetto lifestyle, drugs, gangs, pimping no white producer will sign you and after they sign you it’s them to dictate the content. Anyway, all I’m saying is that if you are in a subjugated class you will be pimped out, upende usipende. If you are a conscious person you may not swallow the bait straight but it’ll still affect you coz you have no choice but to do whatever is expected of you. The best subjugation is internalized, blacks have internalized racism manifested as colorism and dependency on white society, white nations. It’s all pimping. All subjugated groups are being pimped. Including so called elite blacks who are athletes and entertainers. They are making money for the white pimp and they get status (defined by the white man and reinforced by the brainwashed black masses) and some crumbs. I won’t put the woman parallels bcz it seems to be throwing you off. Wacha I finish listening to My vanishing country by Bakari Sellers and Noam chomsky manufacturing consent. Your friend Prof Thomas Sowell has a new documentary called common sense in a senseless world. Check it out when you have time.

You are still covering a lot of topics. Entertainment, oppression, prostitution, black entrepreneurship, behavioral expectation. And attempting to link them. And there are plenty of clean very successful rappers, Jay-Z, ice cube.

And also Black people are pretty good at distinguishing entertainment from reality. Nobody takes Cardi Bs lyrics literally.

One thing you need to study is the denial of opportunities to Black people from a young age and how that feeds into their adult lives. It’s not by chance that, as you mentioned, majority of incarcerated are Black. It’s been carefully orchestrated. From birth. You need to study along those lines. Otherwise the people you listen to are the monkeys that have made it up the tree and laugh at the ones on the ground. Completely ignore why others are on the ground in the first place.

The white man does not destroy the black man, he just gives him the means to destroy himself. Those few monkeys up the tree know it, they knew it as children and they evaded the traps bcz they were critical thinkers not herd thinkers which is what 80% of humanity is, a blind follower. If you are an underclass its you to be smart and make your own way and evade the setups. The motif of oppression is the reality of majority of humans. If you are a woman, you are oppressed, if you are not white you are oppressed systematically, if you are born poor you are oppressed, the odds are against you from birth, you might be stolen at Pumwani or get birth defects bcz your mom never went to the clinic and gave birth at home. So the oppression of women or of the poor is no different than the oppression of black folk in America. The medium is the same. For one the media and pop culture. Systematic racism is just like systematic sexism. It’s only that in America racism is more beneficial to the white establishment than sexism towards minority women. Women do not pose a substantial threat as long as the men are left behind. It’s the way of the world and how society works. I’m tying in all of this different things bcz society is not compartmentalised its interwoven like a spider’s web, you have to look at the macro view to see how everything feeds each other. Nothing is independent it’s just that it is not in most people’s conscious awareness. People usually do not interrogate why things are the way they are. The monkeys who made it up the tree are not the sheeple, they were the thinkers, critical thinkers bcz man is created to subdue whichever environment no matter how oppressive he finds himself that’s why there’s people who live in the North Pole. That’s why instead of wasting my time reading victim narratives, I want to hear from the monkeys at top the tree. So I can learn something from them.

As for Black people you are completely wrong. Critical thinkers at age 5??? How do you even chose your environment at that age. Nuh, Several factors played for the monkeys to make it up the tree. I can name at least 50. Starting from your home. What if a 6 year old is struggling in class. Which is normal. And his dad is in jail or doesn’t understand the work. Decent schools have resources. Poor neighborhood the class just moves. The child falls behind from day 1. But then again, this is not stuff you will understand. That’s why those monkeys up in the tree seek you as an audience.

Well the research shows that black boys from middle class, two parent homes and sometimes even upper classes don’t fare any better. So this is not just an education issue and your social status. As a black boy you can have both and the outcome remains the same. I have brought that research paper here enough times and you never adress it. Do you know that even a 2parent home doesn’t affect outcomes for black boys?

Number 2,if a white girl is born in a trailer park, goes to a trash school and if a black girl has a dad in jail and a junkie mom and she goes to inner city schools which do not even have the right teachers, the white girl and the black girl are at par on the trajectory to getting out of poverty. However no sooner than the black girl get with a black guy the upward trajectory becomes a downward spiral. Can you kindly adress the findings of this research before you start sensationilising this issue with the usual talking point of victim narrative that is prevalent in the black community. Please adress the research below.

The inheritance of black poverty: It's all about the men | Brookings

Please adress this

Black boys are the least likely of any group to escape poverty

Adress this only 9million of 41 million Americans living under the poverty line are black.

Black Americans are over-represented in media portrayals of poverty

No 1 , That was one factor. Remember I said I can give you at least 50. And my reference wasn’t about 2 family parenting but finding a resource for a struggling kid. I should have made that clear.

For your number 2 , I don’t think you know what a trailer park is. Many decent people(middle class) live in trailer parks. It’s just that they want the flexibility to move and the ambience of a home, not apartment living. But I somewhat understand what you are trying to say.

So now to answer about the trajectory of the black girl, it goes with what I keep telling you. The opportunities are restricted to her while the white girl has them open. For example, the white girl will walk into a job and get it. It will take several attempts for the black girl so secure a lower position. If the dude is no good, she has a fall back plan.

I am not sensationalizing anything but simply stating reality. You may not know it, but your views of black people are largely restatements of old and/or racist white men statements and bedwenches.

Now blaming hip-hop. Gangster style lyrics didn’t start until late 80s with ICE-T, NWA types. So what’s to blame of Black people struggling before then, if you claim HIP hop is an issue. Talk about putting someone down and then finding a reason to that holds him down.

If you go to Brazil, “Black”people suffer the same economic conditions. For the same reason. Repeatable pattern.

Pimping is far older than America itself.

Pimping is as old as prostitution itself. And prostitutes existed even before Jesus’ time.

Pimps and madames have existed since time immemorial. Mother’s sold their daughters, husbands their wives and daughters etc etc.

In fact the first madams in the U.S were immigrant madams from Europe. They set up the first brothels in America. In short I’m not buying that slavery , BLM bullshiet you are selling. Slavery activism.

You do realize that freed black slaves also owned slaves?

Like I told @LuandaMagere last year this slavery activism is bullshit peddled by Democrats.

These activists changed history.

Black people were very much willing participants in slavery and the slave trade. Africans sold fellow Africans to slave traders and became very wealthy.

In the U.S there were many black slave owners. Some wealthy blacks even owned white slaves. But history was rewritten.

@TrumanCapote did you know that some of the best trackers of escaped slaves were blacks themselves?

But you are sensationalising this issue bcz we know that we live in a capitalist society that is hierarchical. Do you think I’m happy that a man who is even less qualified than I am is more likely to get a job bcz he’s a man?

Si ni life, the greater the struggle, the sweeter the success. The job will go first to the white man then the white woman then the black woman and the black man last. Everyone who was not born male and white has to deal with this hierarchical shit but that’s not the excuse to drop out of school and basically give up on life bcz life is unfair to your gender or to your race. It’s just how society works but if you decide you are going to make it, make it you will against every obstacles placed on your path. There’s nothing so special about the obstacles blacks in the inner cities face compared to say people who grew up in the slums. Atleast they have toilets. Atleast they have electricity and running water. I’m just so tired of this victim mentality and blame game like African Americans are the only oppressed and subjugated people in the world. If we just accept the status quo and victim status what will become of the world? If the feminist movement did not fight for the right to vote and own property and travel with out permission from a male relative, the hell kind of life would we be having as women right now, if MLK and Malcolm X and people who fought slavery and segregation and Jim Crowe laws just sat back and said hey look we are oppressed and dispossessed and they have all the power, the instruments of power are in the oppressors hands, what can be done other than complain and smoke blunts and drop out of school and join gangs.

There is something I want you to understand that I have learnt by virtue of being a bona-fide member of the largest population of oppressed and disenfranchised people, women. I know that nobody is going to give you their privilege. Not their male privileges, not their white privileges and certainly not their socio economic privileges. You will have to make your own way.

I don’t know what African Americans have suffered from that is worse than the Holocaust, than living in a Kenyan slum, like suffering is everywhere if what you are looking for is excuses.

Hey it’s not me blaming Hip hop bcz people over here listen to Diamond. It’s the same black kids you are defending vehemently.

Bullocks… Twas an exception and not the rule