I think my lakeside partner is doing juju on me, I don't know what to do

Before you start reading, I just want to point out I have NEVER been the superstititious person before; or someone to believe witchcraft is real, or any of that stuff that would have other people questioning your sanity/education level.

So, I have been with BA for just over 5 years now, we met in the later part of 2021.

We broke up one time in 2023 and just “happened” to bump into each other at a supermarket while I was taking my new catch shopping and later that evening BA called me crying and the rest is history.

For the first 3 years of our relationship, I can’t say I saw anything strange (apart from regular relationship shenanigans) and all I knew from the first week of meeting her was she was going to be my wife. I just ‘knew’. Now, none of that would mean anything but recent happenings have had me overthinking everything, like ..how did I know, was she doing something … uhm ungodly? Honestly I don’t know. But let me try not to go too deep and drive you away from reading the rest of my predicament.

So we have been uhm … married for about 2 years now. We actually got married in a very unconventional way, I was staying outside the country and my family had been pestering me to settle down for the longest time. So while I was away, it was the day of her birthday and I told her to take some cake for my parents. It was kind of to shut them up since they’d known we had broken up and letting her visit them would shut them up. Just like that, they never let her go and I came back home a year later (Jan 2025) with them having held onto her the entire year of 2024, just like that, married. The thing I just wanted to highlight there is for the 2 years we’ve been ‘married’, we’ve only lived together for one year - 2025.

Towards the end of 2025, I started to notice a peculiar albeit scary pattern. She touches me at night while I am dead asleep.

Hold on, kabla muulize, kwanini hutaki bibi yako akuguze, what in the brary fkin is this … I know!

So, she typically waits for when I am out cold, dead asleep. REM sleep. She literally waits for that. I guess anaobserve breathing patterns, but that part is a very important detail - I need to be passed out.

I am typically woken up, or I wake up, I don’t know which is which. I think she’s either doing something and it wakes me up when she over-does it, OR, it’s just instinct/God kicking in na kuniamsha.

I will find BA rubbing/touching my body in a couple of spots that I have noted so far.

i) If I am facing away from her:
- kwa mbavu chini, kind of where my elbow would rest, but nearer to the back
- My lower back/spine
ii) If I am facing towards her (I found this one out just 3 days ago):
- My forehead (I KNOW :downcast_face_with_sweat:)

So how it happens … nimelala fofofo. Suddenly I am woken up, by whatever it is … (so far nothing strange, could have just been her arm brushing on me as she is asleep too)

Well here’s the strange(r) part. Immediately (she notices) I am coming to, the hand that was touching me in either of those places will IMMEDIATELY pull away at 200km/h to the other side of the bed (her side), immediately dodging into the sheets or under her pillow!!!

This pattern has happened too many times, more than I can count over the past 3-4 months. It might have been happening before that, maybe I didn’t notice before, sijui.

I also want to point out that I never saw this happening ile time tulikua tunadate. I mean, we didn’t live together. But I paid for her house and slept over at least a few times a week, but I would leave the next morning.

So, at first I didn’t think much of it, untill I started noticing the pattern.

A detail I want to add that I am afraid might cause some to start questioning my perception, but I still think it’s important to state. Me and her do omusala edibles from time to time, typically twice a week - usually gets me in the mood for furumbanya.

Now, I noticed that she especially likes those nights to do the ‘juju’. The reason I thought to mention it, is because I think her preference for these times in particular is because she knows I will be in deeper sleep than usual and less likely to be woken up.

However, before someone goes, “it’s the paranoia - wacha bangi kijana”. These events are not exclusive to those nights when I am high. I have been woken to her doing these strange activities both when I am sober and when I am high. In fact, the one time that I caught her doing that thing on my forehead (I kid you not), I was actually sober, it’s just 3 days ago.

Imagine coming to from deep slumber to someone doing something on your forehead, and immediately your breathing pattern changes as you wake, their hand - that was touching you (with something?) pulls away quickly and goes to other side of the bed hidden from view.

This, thing has caused me immense worry. It has made me super prayerful, I mean, ningeomba kitambo kimoyo moyo, but now I can’t even skip a day. I mean, it’s still kimoyo moyo before sleeping but I don’t skip a day now.

Now, I have tried to rationalize what has been happening but I will be frank, I am scared about what is going on, and I don’t know what to do yet.

I have tried telling myself, you were high (that was at the start) - but then it kept recurring even on regular days I have gone to sleep normally.

I have tried telling myself it’s nothing, she’s just asleep and it’s just things that happen when you’re asleep with someone, they could touch you without knowing. But then, two things don’t add up with that hypothesis:

  • If she’s indeed asleep, why/how does her hand move away SO FAST! People who are dead asleep do not move that quick.
  • Second, it’s the patten. This thing has happened 100% of the time that I have woken up to such events, so it can’t be a coincidence or an accident.

Then there’s the other thing that doesn’t make sense, let’s assume she was awake and it’s just an accident.

You see, after the first 2-3 times of this happening, I asked, and I have asked a few times since. However, I didn’t imply anything. I just went with (and still do), unaniguza place sensitive, I don’t like that because I have a hard time going back to sleep.

While it is true I have sometimes had a difficult time going back to sleep if woken up by anyone, that’s just a cover story I gave to not blow my cover that I was onto her. The real reason obviously was, this is some strange shiii and I just can’t wrap my head around it.

So, let’s say she were awake … then why has she, each time, faked to be dead asleep when I went to question her about “being woken up”. She will feign to be coming to from deep slumber as well YET, I just witnessed her hand flying to the other side of the bed like she just touched a hot pan.

Explain to me how someone who’s moving that fast EVERYTIME is supposed to be waking up from deep slumber when I go to ask about it.

It is based on these facts that I have concluded that some juju is going on in my house.

To what end, kill me? Enslave me? Curse me? I REAAALLY don’t know, I have only stated above what I do know.

Some unrelated/maybe related details about her that might be useful to anyone reading this who might have experienced this or know someone who’s experienced this before.

  1. She’s Luo.
  2. She had 2 sister and 2 brothers (the brothers not necessarily important here)
  3. Her two sisters were both married
  4. Both husbands died (all young <50 young)
  5. Her mother had children by 2 different men.
  6. Both men died, with her step father being the last one to die, he died about 3 months after I met her - supposedly hit by a motorcycle.
  7. From when I met her, I came to understand that she/they do not know/keep in touch with their extended family from either side.

On that last point. I found it extremely strange in an African setting for you ‘not to know’ your uncles/aunts from both mother/father’s side.

The explanation I had at the start of our relationship was they were raised in ‘town’ and didn’t get to interact much with her extended family.

A thing that had my alarm bells going off about 2 weeks ago was when we were in conversation and her extended family came up again. I got inquisitive and in disbelief. “Mtu hujui/huongei na ANY of your uncles/aunts aje” - I thought this is automatic in an African/Kenyan setting. At least where I come from, you will know all your parents’ siblings ata kama unaeza kosa kujua macuzo wengine.

So imagine being sold not knowing/talking to any of them, save for one aunt that I met one time.

So anyway, in my pressing during conversation 2 weeks ago. She blurts out “ah, si autongeleshangi ao ma-aunti, wanakuanga na mambo mingi”, when I press on what “mambo mingi” mean, she said they (the aunties) are involved in witchcraft and that’s why her family doesn’t keep in touch.

As you’d expect, for someone who had been going through what I had been going through the past 3-4 months, my buzzers were going off at that relevation.

It’s then that my mind went, waaaaait a minute. What if it’s not the aunts, but it’s actually my wife’s family that’s involved in withcraft. And possibly, the reason they don’t keep in touch with the rest of the extended family is because they (my wife’s family) has been cut off/exiled.

At least, that version made more sense in my mind CONSIDERING what I have been going through.

I have started checking the internet for discrete cameras I can place in the bedroom to catch this nonsense in action. The reason for that is because at the moment, I am between a rock and a hard place.

If I go to my family with just my version of events, ataniruka vibaya sana. And I will end up looking like a fool.

Remember, I was literally ‘forced’ to marry after such a long time, so imagine what they will think. “Kama hakuwa anataka bibi si angesema tu”

But it’s clear far more serious things are ongoing in my house.

I am also considering going to my pastor (siendangi church kusema ukweli). She does go to church with my parents, I am the only one who doesn’t go.

Which also brings up another point that puzzles me. How is a ‘witch’ going to church??? I thought they’d burn up or something??? Or at the very least be uncomfortable being in such holy grounds. Which is also a precaution to other folks out here, be VERY careful and do not assume just because mtu anaenda church ni mzuri, specimen being my wife.

But as I was saying, I am afraid of going to the pastor because as soon as I do that, moshenee itatembea kwa village, and it could go the other way.

Now, bado sijapeleka ng’ombe. I have been receiving messages passed on from her mother to go “see” her, but I haven’t gone yet for financial reasons, BUT, with what’s happening I no longer intend to go. If anything, I am looking for a way out as soon as I can, but not before I get my smoking gun since as expected, this person ataniruka mbele ya wazazi.

Worst of all, my parents LOVE her, so I feel for them in a way, they really wanted my second marriage to work.

Advice villagers, and please note, this is not hekaya, I believe I have put as much details in here to dispell doubt that I am pulling your leg

Comments from people from the lakeside are especially welcome, but anyone really, I need as much advice and prayers as I can get

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I started reading then it went on and on and on and on …
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Msee atupe summary please after suspicions za uchawi

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Kaka, it’s some serious stuff I am talking about. I felt I needed to include the details that I did for context. I’m sorry it’s a little long to read, but I would appreciate any geniune input

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Nikifanya analyzeshen nimeona hapa iko mchawi hatari sana.

  1. Witches go to church. Remember hata shetani anajua bible kushinda pope.
  2. Hio family yao was cut off juu ya uchawi is right.
  3. Weka hidden cameras and catch her red handed then use that as proof to go to embobut. But usfanye ya one day, chukua several videos to show a pattern.

Finally omba sana juu at the end of it all ukiwa na God on your side hizo uchawi zitamwendea. Ukitaka na more info uliza @Nubia mkamba mchawi hodari wa Kitui atakushow vile hizi vitu hufanyika.

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Ni mbaya sir, and thank you.

I think you speak what I already know, and kind of confirm to me that I am not reading too much into nothing.

You’re right, the hidden camera is my way to really justify and clear any doubts with my family.

If it’s up to me alone, I wouldn’t need all of this, I’d just wake up one day and leave without explanation

I have been away from the village a while now so I don’t know @Nubia but you’re summoned

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You clearly do not trust this woman. Is leaving an option? Like, could you make up a believable reason to separate with her (work trip or sth) so you do not have to live with her?

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The dynamics of my situation make it a little tricky. I left my job mid 2024 and I had to move back to Kenya as I sort my situation, while I do have other pursuits at the moment, my income is not stable enough for me to vamoose into an apartment somewhere untill she leaves.

I feel chasing her while living within our family compound would cause a lot of drama and tongues to wag in the village. But then, I can’t continue living with someone I presume to be performing witchcraft on me, in my house.

So, the path of least resistance is to come with irrefutable evidence of the pattern (video) and she’d have to leave by herself to avoid drama or worse, lynching. Of couse I could just go to my kin and tell them this story. There’s a high chance they believe me because I am not someone known kucheza na maisha. But I am afraid of there being doubt, or worse not being believed at all.

Kwanza wataskia kijana yao anatumianga bangi, that won’t help my case. But I’m in my early 30s and almost finishing my PHD i.e. my leisure activities should only be my business unless I was a loser who wasn’t taking their life seriously >> addict.

But either way, being in Kenya, that won’t help my case.

Especially, not when she comes out with tears and refutes everything

The problem here is she’s doing weird staff but after realizing you’re woke she pretends to be dead sleep…si hata angejifanya ni cuddling but hapo kwa kujifanya amelala kuna shida.

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EXACTLY!!!

This is one of the things that don’t make sense to me and after it’s happened night after night (not every night though - Or, others I just miss because I’m asleep, I don’t know)

When you put it all together, you gotta ask yourself, if your partner did this over and over, would you be overthinking to come to my conclusion.

Like I literally expect it to happen once or twice before Sunday ifike, that’s how consistent this is.

And you bet, she will be “asleep”, I don’t even ask now.

I forgot to mention, as of a early December, I started sleeping with most of my pillow in between us and moving to the very end of the bed away from her.

Tell me why her hand still finds a way through the pillow to my side AND still withdrawn as quickly when I am waking up

My point is that you no longer trust this woman. At this point, whether she’s working some kind of spellcraft on you or not is irrelevant.
You do not trust her.
You cannot build a relationship someone you do not trust.
You need to end the relationship.
Trying to record her might backfire, assuming she’s not an idiot.

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You’re :100: right. I already made up my mind.

What I am really concerned about at the moment is the how and the after.

But the truth is, I wish you were in my shoes (sorry) what I have described is EXACTLY what’s happening. I say that since I can sense your attempt to stay “in the real world” about whether she really is doing these things.

And I get that completely. Before this, I was you FR, like witchcraft? That’s some low IQ sht that people peddle deep in nyaribari chache. Untill it’s happening to me in my house multiple times a week.

I am also expecting that recording won’t be as easy, she might either spot the device OR I might not even be able to find a suitable spot to set it. I am looking around my bedroom and there’s only 1 or two places at most I could put it and even then it’s going to potentially be a magic trick I’d have to pull myself to do it multiple days without getting beat at my own game.

Either way I’m on my way out since I know there’s no way I am dealing with this

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Hujachange :joy:

Anyway, good to see you village elder.

It’s been over 10 years since we first met on these forums :sweat_smile: so if/when you can, read and help a brother out lol

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  1. Install a hidden camera in your bedroom and observe for a few nights
  2. If that’s not possible pretend to be romantic, go out of town to an Airbnb, install your hidden camera without her knowing spend the weekend/night and observe later
  3. Personally go to her village, where she comes from or send someone you deeply trust to ask about the family
  4. I’d also recommend installing a hidden camera/listening device in the room she spends the most time when at home
  5. Or just buy her new fancy/expensive phone but it’s bugged without her knowing and just observe what she’s upto cause if she’s doing what you’re suspecting she’s obviously discussing it with the mom and/or the sisters
  6. Once you find out, just disappear from her life. Don’t confront or seek closure
  7. Unaweza pia kuwa psycho kama yeye and pretend to be dead asleep. Akianza hizo ufala just play dumb for like 10 minutes then amka na kisirani and throw her out of your life
  8. You’re living a fake forced life with sb you don’t even have love for anymore. Don’t let guilt/empathy make you fuck up your life na kwanza umesema unafanya PhD. Cause she wouldn’t be soft on you if she was the one having this predicament. Just wake up and find better
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Quit when it is still early. the mere fact that you no longer trust her means that that ‘marriage’ will always be a sham. Dont care about providing evidence. Walk out and dont explain yourself to anyone.

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The hidden camera is my first go to, I am currently trawling the internet for appropriate ones that are discrete and have night vision. I’ve jjust seen one hidden in a belt but it’s super expensive, I might have to bite the bullet on that one stakes considered, but I’ll keep looking the next day or two.

Sending someone to the village at the moment is a little tricky considering how far it is, uko karibu kwa Raila, nimesahau jina, might not be immediately feasible.

I already found out, but this version is only with me and you guys at the moment. The evidence gathering is for the stakeholders.

Granted, it’s probably cheaper to ask her to move with me to some apartments then abadon her from there, less drama that way since I’d have taken her away from home grounds where she’d be inclined to embarrass me.

You’re right right now I a living a fake and forced life.

Just for the sake of it, can you imagine getting it up for someone who’s busy doing these things to you.

I initially shut down for a week, couldn’t get myself to touch her. Then, I realized, if I don’t then I expose my cover. So now I just do it with bitterness and distate for motivation, not very good motivations if you ask me, the second or third round is VERY hard to come through just because of all these thoughts.

I’am literally living the F me like you hate me IRL

I really wish I could do that. In the first instance when I learnt what’s going on, my impulses told me to leave this place and dissapear untill she leaves, and not answer the phone, nothing.

Unfortunately, we’re living in the same compound as my folks. That adds complications to the “I’m going to fetch milk” plan.

But it’s still not out of consideration

I can’t even blame you :joy:

I only gathered the courage to talk to my close friend about this yesterday morning after a whole 3.5 months of this going on. And now I am telling you guys.

It’s because I understand the absurdity of it all which is why I still I’m in this position to begin with, because if it was something less absurd, I would just go out and inform the stakeholders no second thoughts lol

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