Have you been here?

[mwirigi]

@kukuru kakara

We shall overcome! Ain’t a day that goes without the slightest light.

thanks

[mwirigi]

@Brayo44ki

[COLOR=rgb(40, 50, 78)]Hang in there soldier, forgive those who left you… Though keep a list of their names.

I did identify and it’s sad that 90% of them are on that list.

[Conservative_dude]

@mwirigi

Have you ever been to the lowest point in your life? For me, I never thought this would ever happen to me. I once worked in some big fancy organizations for 10 yrs that ended in 2018. Before maisha ilikuwa London, Sold my car downgraded to a one-bedroom and 2019 tried out business(male clothing) where I failed to get it running. Nov 2019 tried IT consultancy since that’s what I studied in college and is my profession currently no one is looking for consultants ama ni Mimi ndio sijui Kutafuta clients coz I know kuna watu bado wana clients, corona came in early Feb sema kukaukiwa. All your friends are avoiding me now since sionekani kama kuna progress on my side, even calls siku hizi ni either my family ama watu wakudai bills and am sure ata @administrator anifukuze, my clothing Instagram page that had over 5000 followers got hacked this weekend and can no longer access ata kujua what name the idiots changed it to thanks to bloody Hootsuite. I need advice on where to start coz iv tried even applying for jobs but in vain even if ni job ya 30-50k just to stabilize my sinking ship, sijapata guessing that is either overqualified or forgot the art of applying for jobs. Sijui kama am the only baga hapa who is going through this ama its a stage in life.

Just like the prodigal son, God is waiting for you to return to him. He shall give you a precious covering and organize a big celebration for you. You’ll also be in line to get inheritance as one of his sons.

[gosh]

@D.... Mungai

You are in your trying period.

The best I will tell you is

1. Maintain your sanity. Wacha drugs kabisaaa.

2. Do something new. Even if it means working out, something that you can see its results on you. Let it be a result you can take credit 100%. This mentally will invigorate you to whatever you will do next. In that your belief will be there as you can see results of your actions.

3. Avoid, avoid any negative or something that amke you question your self esteem, self worth, importance. Read number 2 - positivity should be your daily meal.

4. Avoid avoid avoid ladies. - kama hauna bibi. I will be honest, they will make you question your self alot after being rejected. Remember they don’t know your journey.

5. ALWAYS remember it’s a journey, if your a brutally honest with yourself ulipata pesa kwa urahisi when you had it. Bad thing - God is preparing you for greater things, or rather he wouldn’t bless you more juu ungeharibu tu sai. As another poster has said hapo juu, all who maintain their sanity in such period tend to MAKE IT BIG. So maintain your sanity at ALL COST. Good thing - your patience is on trial. If you lose the patience you lose the case.

6. Nothing under the sun is new, you are not the first person to go through this, nor the last. Has a man you have to pass through this. Its the bridge.

I will give you a very personal advice, what I have used in my own life. I passed through dark clouds but…

You see the way Raila camouflage, reinvents, remakes himself that should be your motto in life.

How many men can pass through such life disappointments and still maintain importance, relevance to himself, family, friends.

Remember wewe you have already started complaining friends are avoiding you. See the difference between you and how Baba behaves as a man. He loses but he reinvents to importance AGAIN.

Who/where are the men who were around him 2007 when kibaki stole his election? Weta, Balala, Nyaga, MaDVD. How about people in 2005 during Referendum…

Only Uhuru(2005) and Ruto(2007) have been able to reinvent themselves. Who are these two guys now in Kenya, not a coincidence ndio wako kwa presidency.

Those are mark of true men. Not a coincidence Raila has been their thorn ever since, why because Baba is like them true Men who know how to remain positive, relevant no matter the disappointment of life.

So, stay sane, positive, avoid anything which brings negativity, then reinvent yourself. Even if it’s a handshake to your lost enemy.

You’ve said if all. My own personal experience.

[system]

I’m sorry, hang in there bro! May God grant you the desires of your heart.

[Simiyu22]

Hang in there. Stick to your plan but be realistic(reasonable). Your first bet is to survive. In your IT field, theres something you can sell( in terms of a skill) to an employer. Have a peer critique your resume and edit accordingly. One guy who hired me told me I need to correct my resume way later while we were having coffee. Also talk to people, in church, in the bar, you never know who will guide you to an opportunity. Dont be scared to tell your relaz you lost your job. If they laugh, they laugh. By the way using youtube, you can learn a marketable skill. Lets say you are out 1 year, thats CPA1 and 2, as an example. Completely changes your outlook. And it doesnt hurt. So dont just sit in the house and booze all day.
Been fired many times. Its one thing to be fired when you are single and alone. The one that hurt when I was hosting my siz and her kids. She had just started school at my request and then I was fired offguard. And having just returned from vacation having spend a lot of money. Suddenly I had 5 mouths and no income. Wueh. Good thing I had saved up some cash. After massive depression for 1 week, I started looking for a job. It took a year although amazingly I got job offers in between.

[ChifuMbitika]

Pole Sana brother. Just pray and be calm. Try to look out for anything that you can do to make a few coins. Don’t lose hope coz you have a great future ahead

[Murkomeno]

@Brayo44ki

[COLOR=rgb(40, 50, 78)]Hang in there soldier, forgive those who left you… Though keep a list of their names.

Exact to the point.

My story is not that dire but hey, you may learn a thing or two.

I shared my tribulations I had way back in college here on KTalk. It gave me insight on how friends will abandon you at the hour of your greatest need. My friends graduated before me and all of them except one stood by me. I was still immature then. Upon realizing that I won’t get to them on subsequent calls, I made sure I SMS’d each of them that I’d never bother them again. It has been almost 20 years and I have stuck to my word.

Some four years back, a past acquaintance was hired. He happended to be a relative to the boss. Kumbe the f****r was snitch (Mungu anisamehe). By then I had risen to the position of departmental head. Wueh! Things started becoming elephant. Mara requisitions hazikuwi approved etc etc. I protested but my boss had already been poisoned. Niling’olewa na kuachwa bila any portfolio. My erstwhile friends started looking at me like a leper. That’s when I realized colleagues are not friends.

First thing I did was to apply for study leave, which was granted (It was impossible to be transferred so I had to find creative ways to go). Some of them tried to befriend me upon learning this new development. Feigned disinterest.

By then I had read up the 48 laws of power. I used this law:
[SIZE=5]Law 36: Disdain things you cannot have, ignoring them is the best revenge[/SIZE]
[I]Remember: You choose to let things bother you. You can just as easily choose not to notice the irritating offender, to consider the matter trivial and unworthy of your interest. That is the powerful move.

Desire often creates paradoxical effects: The more you want something, the more you chase after it, the more it eludes you. The more interest you show, the more you repel the object of your desire. This is because your interest is too strong— it makes people awkward, even fearful. Uncontrollable desire makes you seem weak, unworthy, pathetic.[/I]

Hate anything you cannot get, including your (former) friends.

I am way better now, working on my thesis while the same guys are having a rough time where I left them (the boss was transferred to another county).

[digi]

@D.... Mungai

You are in your trying period.

The best I will tell you is

1. Maintain your sanity. Wacha drugs kabisaaa.

2. Do something new. Even if it means working out, something that you can see its results on you. Let it be a result you can take credit 100%. This mentally will invigorate you to whatever you will do next. In that your belief will be there as you can see results of your actions.

3. Avoid, avoid any negative or something that amke you question your self esteem, self worth, importance. Read number 2 - positivity should be your daily meal.

4. Avoid avoid avoid ladies. - kama hauna bibi. I will be honest, they will make you question your self alot after being rejected. Remember they don’t know your journey.

5. ALWAYS remember it’s a journey, if your a brutally honest with yourself ulipata pesa kwa urahisi when you had it. Bad thing - God is preparing you for greater things, or rather he wouldn’t bless you more juu ungeharibu tu sai. As another poster has said hapo juu, all who maintain their sanity in such period tend to MAKE IT BIG. So maintain your sanity at ALL COST. Good thing - your patience is on trial. If you lose the patience you lose the case.

6. Nothing under the sun is new, you are not the first person to go through this, nor the last. Has a man you have to pass through this. Its the bridge.

I will give you a very personal advice, what I have used in my own life. I passed through dark clouds but…

You see the way Raila camouflage, reinvents, remakes himself that should be your motto in life.

How many men can pass through such life disappointments and still maintain importance, relevance to himself, family, friends.

Remember wewe you have already started complaining friends are avoiding you. See the difference between you and how Baba behaves as a man. He loses but he reinvents to importance AGAIN.

Who/where are the men who were around him 2007 when kibaki stole his election? Weta, Balala, Nyaga, MaDVD. How about people in 2005 during Referendum…

Only Uhuru(2005) and Ruto(2007) have been able to reinvent themselves. Who are these two guys now in Kenya, not a coincidence ndio wako kwa presidency.

Those are mark of true men. Not a coincidence Raila has been their thorn ever since, why because Baba is like them true Men who know how to remain positive, relevant no matter the disappointment of life.

So, stay sane, positive, avoid anything which brings negativity, then reinvent yourself. Even if it’s a handshake to your lost enemy.

You, sir, are the real MVP.

[digi]

@mwirigi

Have you ever been to the lowest point in your life? For me, I never thought this would ever happen to me. I once worked in some big fancy organizations for 10 yrs that ended in 2018. Before maisha ilikuwa London, Sold my car downgraded to a one-bedroom and 2019 tried out business(male clothing) where I failed to get it running. Nov 2019 tried IT consultancy since that’s what I studied in college and is my profession currently no one is looking for consultants ama ni Mimi ndio sijui Kutafuta clients coz I know kuna watu bado wana clients, corona came in early Feb sema kukaukiwa. All your friends are avoiding me now since sionekani kama kuna progress on my side, even calls siku hizi ni either my family ama watu wakudai bills and am sure ata @administrator anifukuze, my clothing Instagram page that had over 5000 followers got hacked this weekend and can no longer access ata kujua what name the idiots changed it to thanks to bloody Hootsuite. I need advice on where to start coz iv tried even applying for jobs but in vain even if ni job ya 30-50k just to stabilize my sinking ship, sijapata guessing that is either overqualified or forgot the art of applying for jobs. Sijui kama am the only baga hapa who is going through this ama its a stage in life.

First things first, don’t take it hard on yourself. Next, be busy, learn something new, follow @administrator 's advice. Be flexible, do all that can get you paid, it keeps increasing with time. What you want to build on is your self assurance and confidence, you are still the same industrious MOFO that you were, only finances have dipped. Keep grinding, things will be fine elder.

[Blasty]

@anon46421834

Went through this as well in Dec 2018.Somewhat a similar duration, had worked there for 9 years. My name was actually not in the list of guys to go home, but it was sneaked in last minute. I realized all was not well when my snitch in HR stopped picking my calls and replying my texts. When I was being let go, my first question was, what will I tell my wife? My kid had just been born a few months ago. How will I raise her up?
I left the organization, they paid me my severance pay, and one and half month Salo for every year worked. We had a good pension scheme with zamara where we were contributing 8%of your Salo and the company contributes 12%.Collectively,the money was good. Decided not to touch zamara, but used 50% of it as security for working capital for a petroleum dealership. Bado iko mpaka Leo, sijawai guza, bado inazaa interest every year.
When you lose your job you tend to have lots of time in your hands, time that used to be spent at work. I slipped into alcoholism. Could drink Jameson or Johnny walker black label mzinga daily. I hid the fact that I was out of work so well that wife never got to know.
I went to coast and lied to wife that I have gone to work. I think I blew 250k of my benefits in Mtwapa that week. Been fired enough times in the course of career, but they were jobs where I had worked for like a year or two. During those times, I used to lose friends and I was able to know and separate drinking buddies and friends who stood by me during those times. They could even hook me up with interviews and even call me up for drinks knowing Sina kakitu. So when I got retrenched, losing friends haikuwa issue. I used to drink but in my local hata uniite kiongos hakuna bia nakubaia, life has already taught me mambo za ku socialize kwa ma local.
In my career, I have a three peeps older than me who I talk to and occasionally meet up for matters career and mentorship related. I opened up and told them what happened. One had recently been let go off at a senior level in a bank and opened up consultancy stuff. He introduced me to a head of retail in a multinational oil company. Was able to get a dealership with 2.8M working capital instead of the usual 6M. Was able to use by 50% zamara benefits as security.I have done quite well, could be getting another dealership in Sondu anytime,applicqtion imeshapita approval stages.
The rest of the money I opened two phone and electronic accessories shops. In total I have employed 13 people in all the businesses wenye nalipia PAYE, NHIF, NSSF on permanent basis.
What is important right now for you is:
1.Maintain your sanity.
2.Dont lose hope because if you do, it will be difficult to even pass an interview.
3.Totally cut out unnecessary expenditure.
4.Dont stop doing your hobbies. If you love going for run, run even longer distances, if you love lifting weights, lift even heavier. The feel good hormones will give you clarity of mind to restrategize. More importantly you will remain healthy. Once you let stress overwhelm you, I’ll health eg blood pressure, diabetes etc will set in halafu death pap.
5.Keep off drugs and alcohol. I almost drank myself to death. One morning after a heavy drinking session was admitted in hosi with a BP of 221/110. Almost died coz my heart ventricles had enlarged because of drinking mzinga daily, no exercise and constantly worrying , making me a candidate for heart failure anytime. Was released after 3 days. Since that day I have embraced being clean and more exercise.I go for tests every three months at the hospital and it shows the heart is back to normal size.

I always tell guys over here, hii tabia ya marrying a woman coz of looks isn’t a good idea. A beautiful woman will probably be with you as long as you provide, when you are not giving her what she wants she will move to the next nigga who will give it to her. Ideally, marry a woman who is your best friend first. That way, she can put up with your bullshit and not move out with the kid at the slightest provocation.This fact never makes sense for a 25-30year old man. Lakini MTU akifika 32-36years after dating and fuacking all these beautiful women it will make sense. You will have experienced being dumped by these women, then they come back into your life when they see you have recovered wakiona ma posts zako za Suncity South Africa pale IG, hawajui ni company ililipa. For beautiful women, have a Capex mentality when you want to fk them. Spend on her once if you must, fk her, then bounce, and don’t go for a return match. For a woman you want to marry being beautiful is a plus, but make sure she is your best friend first.
I met my wife kitambo sana when we were both broke, so tums grow pamoja. I tried my best to hide my being fired situation. But things have a way of coming out. She noticed I suddenly started coming home late at 2am almost every day dead drunk. The day I was admitted in hosi I just had to open up.
You see the way people say ati a woman must be beautiful, tabia tuta vumilia? I disagree, mwanamke ni tabia first before beauty. Of course I can get a beautiful girl anytime, give her what she wants if eg a drive out of town to Naivasha, or money and then f**k her with no strings attached, but making her a wife goes deeper than the size of her ass maze.The fact that she agrees to be fucked for resources shows she only stays if resources are provided. Hivyo ndio reality iko kwa ground. If you marry women based on beauty alone you will be having a new wife every time you recover from losing a job coz they will be leaving you at the slightest sign of brokenness.
Keep your headup, look out for opportunities, never give up hope. Hope is the one thing you must never lose coz if you do it is over.
Have a good family support system and by family support system I mean your nuclear family. Extended family including bros and cuzos are more often happy that you don’t have a job so that they can brag how they helped you. My wife says a home is a sanctuary. She never stressed me at all when I was coming home at 3am drunk ama nimebonda gate na Gari. The worst she could do was to talk to my bro mwenye tuko close aniongeleshe. She never told my mum. Home is a place you should be looking forward to going to especially during this tough time. Try and build that with your wife.
Once you get a new job, which am sure you will as long as you remain sober without losing hope, start side hustles in fields that you enjoy and that you are familiar with. The experience that you are currently going through will catapult you to greater heights of prosperity because of the lessons you are learning now.

Mad respect for U bro.I totally do.

[sani]

Avoid drugs. Take a shower daily before 8, and dress well. Don’t give depression a chance. Go to Wakulima Market

[Fleek]

from a salary of 104k to a bedsitter of 5500 that i was struggling to pay…i almost sunk into depression.
Am at least not bad so far.
DONT DESPAIR.
DONT SEEK PITY, NO ONE OWES YOU SHIT.
REDUCE EXPENSES TO THE LOWEST LEVEL.

[Master_JG]

@anon46421834

Went through this as well in Dec 2018.Somewhat a similar duration, had worked there for 9 years. My name was actually not in the list of guys to go home, but it was sneaked in last minute. I realized all was not well when my snitch in HR stopped picking my calls and replying my texts. When I was being let go, my first question was, what will I tell my wife? My kid had just been born a few months ago. How will I raise her up?
I left the organization, they paid me my severance pay, and one and half month Salo for every year worked. We had a good pension scheme with zamara where we were contributing 8%of your Salo and the company contributes 12%.Collectively,the money was good. Decided not to touch zamara, but used 50% of it as security for working capital for a petroleum dealership. Bado iko mpaka Leo, sijawai guza, bado inazaa interest every year.
When you lose your job you tend to have lots of time in your hands, time that used to be spent at work. I slipped into alcoholism. Could drink Jameson or Johnny walker black label mzinga daily. I hid the fact that I was out of work so well that wife never got to know.
I went to coast and lied to wife that I have gone to work. I think I blew 250k of my benefits in Mtwapa that week. Been fired enough times in the course of career, but they were jobs where I had worked for like a year or two. During those times, I used to lose friends and I was able to know and separate drinking buddies and friends who stood by me during those times. They could even hook me up with interviews and even call me up for drinks knowing Sina kakitu. So when I got retrenched, losing friends haikuwa issue. I used to drink but in my local hata uniite kiongos hakuna bia nakubaia, life has already taught me mambo za ku socialize kwa ma local.
In my career, I have a three peeps older than me who I talk to and occasionally meet up for matters career and mentorship related. I opened up and told them what happened. One had recently been let go off at a senior level in a bank and opened up consultancy stuff. He introduced me to a head of retail in a multinational oil company. Was able to get a dealership with 2.8M working capital instead of the usual 6M. Was able to use by 50% zamara benefits as security.I have done quite well, could be getting another dealership in Sondu anytime,applicqtion imeshapita approval stages.
The rest of the money I opened two phone and electronic accessories shops. In total I have employed 13 people in all the businesses wenye nalipia PAYE, NHIF, NSSF on permanent basis.
What is important right now for you is:
1.Maintain your sanity.
2.Dont lose hope because if you do, it will be difficult to even pass an interview.
3.Totally cut out unnecessary expenditure.
4.Dont stop doing your hobbies. If you love going for run, run even longer distances, if you love lifting weights, lift even heavier. The feel good hormones will give you clarity of mind to restrategize. More importantly you will remain healthy. Once you let stress overwhelm you, I’ll health eg blood pressure, diabetes etc will set in halafu death pap.
5.Keep off drugs and alcohol. I almost drank myself to death. One morning after a heavy drinking session was admitted in hosi with a BP of 221/110. Almost died coz my heart ventricles had enlarged because of drinking mzinga daily, no exercise and constantly worrying , making me a candidate for heart failure anytime. Was released after 3 days. Since that day I have embraced being clean and more exercise.I go for tests every three months at the hospital and it shows the heart is back to normal size.

I always tell guys over here, hii tabia ya marrying a woman coz of looks isn’t a good idea. A beautiful woman will probably be with you as long as you provide, when you are not giving her what she wants she will move to the next nigga who will give it to her. Ideally, marry a woman who is your best friend first. That way, she can put up with your bullshit and not move out with the kid at the slightest provocation.This fact never makes sense for a 25-30year old man. Lakini MTU akifika 32-36years after dating and fuacking all these beautiful women it will make sense. You will have experienced being dumped by these women, then they come back into your life when they see you have recovered wakiona ma posts zako za Suncity South Africa pale IG, hawajui ni company ililipa. For beautiful women, have a Capex mentality when you want to fk them. Spend on her once if you must, fk her, then bounce, and don’t go for a return match. For a woman you want to marry being beautiful is a plus, but make sure she is your best friend first.
I met my wife kitambo sana when we were both broke, so tums grow pamoja. I tried my best to hide my being fired situation. But things have a way of coming out. She noticed I suddenly started coming home late at 2am almost every day dead drunk. The day I was admitted in hosi I just had to open up.
You see the way people say ati a woman must be beautiful, tabia tuta vumilia? I disagree, mwanamke ni tabia first before beauty. Of course I can get a beautiful girl anytime, give her what she wants if eg a drive out of town to Naivasha, or money and then f**k her with no strings attached, but making her a wife goes deeper than the size of her ass maze.The fact that she agrees to be fucked for resources shows she only stays if resources are provided. Hivyo ndio reality iko kwa ground. If you marry women based on beauty alone you will be having a new wife every time you recover from losing a job coz they will be leaving you at the slightest sign of brokenness.
Keep your headup, look out for opportunities, never give up hope. Hope is the one thing you must never lose coz if you do it is over.
Have a good family support system and by family support system I mean your nuclear family. Extended family including bros and cuzos are more often happy that you don’t have a job so that they can brag how they helped you. My wife says a home is a sanctuary. She never stressed me at all when I was coming home at 3am drunk ama nimebonda gate na Gari. The worst she could do was to talk to my bro mwenye tuko close aniongeleshe. She never told my mum. Home is a place you should be looking forward to going to especially during this tough time. Try and build that with your wife.
Once you get a new job, which am sure you will as long as you remain sober without losing hope, start side hustles in fields that you enjoy and that you are familiar with. The experience that you are currently going through will catapult you to greater heights of prosperity because of the lessons you are learning now.

I have one question,what do you think is the reason that when you get fired its always done behind your back or sth of the sort

[Master_JG]

@Simiyu22

Hang in there. Stick to your plan but be realistic(reasonable). Your first bet is to survive. In your IT field, theres something you can sell( in terms of a skill) to an employer. Have a peer critique your resume and edit accordingly. One guy who hired me told me I need to correct my resume way later while we were having coffee. Also talk to people, in church, in the bar, you never know who will guide you to an opportunity. Dont be scared to tell your relaz you lost your job. If they laugh, they laugh. By the way using youtube, you can learn a marketable skill. Lets say you are out 1 year, thats CPA1 and 2, as an example. Completely changes your outlook. And it doesnt hurt. So dont just sit in the house and booze all day.
Been fired many times. Its one thing to be fired when you are single and alone. The one that hurt when I was hosting my siz and her kids. She had just started school at my request and then I was fired offguard. And having just returned from vacation having spend a lot of money. Suddenly I had 5 mouths and no income. Wueh. Good thing I had saved up some cash. After massive depression for 1 week, I started looking for a job. It took a year although amazingly I got job offers in between.

Being fired really sucks,what were your reasons for being fired btw

[uwesmake]

Pole ndugu

[Brayo44ki]

@mwirigi

I did identify and it’s sad that 90% of them are on that list.

[COLOR=rgb(40, 50, 78)]It’s reality, a poor man has no friends. Just ask that uncle all families ignore

[Chumamoto]

@Master JG

Being fired really sucks,what were your reasons for being fired btw

Bait

[anon46421834]

@Master JG

I have one question,what do you think is the reason that when you get fired its always done behind your back or sth of the sort

I think it mostly happens when top management changes and the new guys in charge want to surround themselves with loyalists.But in my case the business was doing badly and they wanted cheap labour on contract as opposed to permanent and pensionable expensive labour.Can also happen if you are perceived as kichwa ngumu.I remember one question I was asked was ‘do you consider yourself someone who takes criticism positively?Do you always want your way with things or do you allow others to have their way as well?’.The fucker that was asking me these questions had been in the company for only 7 months.I told him my performance appraisal for the half year gave me a score of 95%,which factored his question in the matrix.That should have answered his question.
After i cornered him with that response akanijibu ‘unfortunately the business is not interested in that right now’.Himself he was fired four months later.

[Simiyu22]

@Master JG

Being fired really sucks,what were your reasons for being fired btw

We had lost a contract. They decided to transition older “senior” crew to existing work. That was the story.