Another tale of humans making deals across different levels of existence @Billy_Graham
The tale of Job’s perseverance is still better.
Because evil lost.
As explained earlier, the new testament is simplified religion, suitable for women and children. The only named demons (which are totally real btw) are ‘Legion’, the low level stuff that occupies animal hosts.
Muslims call these low level spirits djinns or ifrit.
Genesis 6:4 (KJV):
“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”
Forbidden Knowledge as taught to humans in 1 Enoch (Book of the Watchers)
| Angel | Forbidden Knowledge Taught | Description |
|---|---|---|
| Azazel | Weapons of war, metallurgy, cosmetics | Taught humans to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates; also introduced jewelry, makeup, and ornamentation. |
| Semjaza (leader) | Enchantments, root-cuttings | Introduced sorcery, spells, and magical practices. |
| Araqiel | Earth signs | Taught divination through the earth. |
| Kokabel | Astrology | Revealed constellations and star lore. |
| Ezeqeel | Cloud knowledge | Explained weather signs and omens. |
| Shamsiel | Sun signs | Taught solar phenomena and their interpretations. |
| Sariel | Lunar signs | Revealed the course of the moon and lunar calendars. |
| Baraqel | Astrology (further detail) | Expanded knowledge of stars and celestial patterns. |
Please stop this stuff.
Echoes of Enoch in the Canon
(This book is not available for casual readers)
1. Jude 1:14–15
- “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all…”
- Direct quotation from 1 Enoch 1:9. This is the clearest evidence that Enoch was read and respected in early Christian circles.
2. 2 Peter 2:4
- “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness…”
- Echo of Enoch’s Watchers story — fallen angels bound for judgment. Genesis 6 only hints at this; Enoch elaborates, and Peter seems to draw on that tradition.
3. Revelation 9:1–11
- Describes demonic beings released from the abyss, tormenting humanity.
- Parallels Enoch’s teaching that the spirits of the Nephilim became wandering evil spirits after death. Revelation reframes this imagery in apocalyptic vision.
4. Genesis 6:4 vs. Enoch 6–15
- Genesis: terse mention of “giants” and “sons of God.”
- Enoch: full narrative of angelic descent, hybrid offspring, forbidden knowledge, and divine judgment.
- Later biblical writers (Jude, Peter, Revelation) seem to assume readers knew this expanded tradition.
Followers of the Prophet might see this as concealment, but actually, it’s management. The stakes are much higher when faith grows from a personal moral compass to a structured framework for comprehending the nature of things as they are in the universe.