Computer RAM advice/ Review - by Supreme Leader of the Tech Section wuod Ombare

Apple tries as much as possible not to engage in discussions about RAM for most of their devices. For a long time they haven’t disclosed the amount of RAM on their phones - I am not sure if this has changed. Why is that? Well your supreme leader is here to discuss this and share his insights.

Before we segue into that discussion, I would like to discuss my recent laptop RAM purchase. When buying a laptop I ensure that most things are upgradable - RAM, SSD, WIFI Card - sometimes battery. Last year I bought an ultrathin laptop - at the time it was the lightest 14" - laptop in the world 970 grams to be exact. - The title is currently held by AsusPro B9440 (880 grams).

I can’t buy RAM in Kenya, because besides being overpriced, most of it is slow and has a high latency. This is not just a Kenyan problem coz if you check Amazon, Newegg and everywhere else you will find most RAM on sale has a latency of CL22 and above. The Nyamgondho can only buy RAM that is CL19 and below. True to himself, wuod Ombare purchased a 16 GB 3200 MHz CL16 RAM. - I paid top dollar as this RAM cost me twice as much as ordinary 16GB RAM

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But the lower the latency, the higher the price. RAM with very low CL# is not even available for consumers as it’s made mostly for industrial servers. Why does latency matter? Well you can read for yourself or engage me in the comments section for further clarification.

My laptop came with a single stick of 16 GB as the manufacturer knew that people like me use computers with RAM sizes 16 - 64 GB and may have little use for 8GB sticks. This additional RAM will get my laptop to 32 GB but in future I might move to 64GB RAM.

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And now back to Apple. So why won’t apple engage in discussions about RAM? Because they simply install smaller RAM sizes on their devices as compared to competitors but make these RAMs perform incredibly fast such that in real world 4GB RAM performs almost like 8GB RAM. One of the secrets is to get a low latency stick as it avails memory to the laptop much faster than sticks with high latency -,even if the speed is the same.

Instead of allowing competitors to subject them to negative marketing ati “Our devises have more RAM than Apple’s”. Apple simply talks about the general speed of the device and waits for reviewers to carry out real world tests where iPhones and iPads obliterate the competition. How do they achieve this?

  1. Clever tweaking of communication between ram and processor
  2. Using RAM with a low latency (Nyamgondho style)
  3. Clever placement of RAM on the Chassis - so that it’s close to the processor and is easily cooled. RAM usually generates heat when in use - which could throttle performance. high quality desktop RAM usually comes with a heatsink to remedy this. but you can also add a heatsink to your desktop ram if you so wish.
  4. Soldering RAM. This can help you easily achieve all the above while reducing the amount of power required by the RAM - Less power means less heat, plus you can put the RAM anywhere in the chassis where it suits you best as you don’t have to worry about upgrades etc.
  5. Also, running RAM in duo channel increases speed 8GB x 2 > 16GB - Apple doesn’t do this though

Comparing my new RAM with what was in the laptop (pictures below) you can see the new RAM comes with a branded aluminum sticker which acts as some sort of heat spreader with an underlying thermal paste - this speeds up cooling. The old RAM is CL 22 so clearly speed was the last thing in their minds when they assembled this.

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Your laptop has only one heatsink from the processor to a single fan meaning no dedicated graphics card hence a low end machine not for heavy rendering/gaming; why would u need to install a 64 GB RAM in the future ? Am just curious about what you use this machine for…

Whats ur view on M1/M2 macbook series architecture which have their ram integrated into the chip

Osha fan nugu. Kwani unaishi kwa shimo

I use in remote places sometimes at remote beaches in Tanzania or some private island in the south coast. Lots of fine sand and dust getting into it. Of course you wouldn’t understand any of this as you sit in your bedsitter with a plastic poster of a beach with a single palm tree.

All this power, to download and watch porn? or how do you commercialize all the investment in hardware Mr supreme leader Himself @Nyamgondho

Big data analytics mostly using R and python which load objects into RAM.

When buying this I needed a super light and thin laptop that I can carry but with a 14" screen. I also need excellent battery life. Took me a lot of time finding one considering my other requirements. Believe me, I have carried this in an A4 envelope when I was in some remote area with security concerns.

Single fan means better battery life… I also have a discrete GPU which I plug into this via thunderbolt 4 when need arises. It can still do light gaming but I am not into gaming.

I am a wealthy man. I can even choose to retire right now as I type this message and I will do just fine for like 100 years…if I can live that long.

To answer your question - I do work for a few multinationals on contract basis and prefer to use my hardware. They pay me well.

Fair enough

Very efficient, I believe every manufacturer will follow suit…even Qualcomm is getting in with their windows on arm chips…

I don’t like the Apple ecosystem because they limit what one can do with their machines. Ram comes soldered, wifi is soldered, even SSDs may not be upgraded… warranty is voided if you open some of their laptops. Software is also highly restricted.

But their engineering is awesome… a cut above the rest.

Upus from a kipii and ramblings from a half ignorant ojingaoist who has just discovered Apple’s hardware and software optimisation prowess .Since you wanted to brag …

-I expected to hear about Apple’s SOC .(you tried but couldn’t go further due to limited understanding of how the graphic and compute cores work with each other plus RAM
-I expected to hear about Apple’s obsession with performance per watt
-I expected to hear about unified memory and mention of bandwidth
-I expected to hear about built in storage
-I expected to hear why ARM chips are more efficient that X86s and much much more

Upus

All I know is , 512 ssd for a 8gb core i7+ Graphics is what keeps it to heart.

Single channel ram stick, cunt even play brick game

wueeh people have expectations! :smiley:

:D:D:D

Me and my 2gb ram laptop inabidi tushungulie hii yote kwa dirisha.

I love my M1 macbook, this machine is a beast with only 8GB ram

Pwagu kapata pwaguzi. Mbona @Nyamgondho ume avoid input ya @Sambamba

I would not be suprised if this was texted in a dingy bedsitter somwhere in pipeline:D:D.

My HP laptop is faster than all your Chinese devices combined