hiyo ni shanghai na beijing gani ulienda? there are three railways stations in beijing ie beijing south , west and beijing railway stations which are in the first ring…beijing epicenter.
Your title promises facts. Tell us how much we overpaid.
In terms of negotiating, you loose bargaining chips when you do not have the money to finance what you want. You almost have to take what you are given.
Are you sure Fēngtái is in the first ring?
We also deserve an Electronic train…
exactly, they chinese saw an opportunity to resell their old trains, accomplish their OBOR goals , and increase in influence over east and central africa. all on in one go… they were damn lucky.
dude why are just going on and on a stupid argument? offer value rather than stupid dick measuring.
Well said
We deserve what we can afford to pay and maintain, Maybe we can afford to build an electric train but we cannot afford to maintain it without the passenger volume.
Absence of relevant training is the main culprit to the failure of transport operations.
Transport manager/operator professional competence short courses will go a long way to ensure the railway and road networks are well run and maintained.
Diplomas providing, a thorough grounding in railway engineering, railway safety skills, Railway Maintenance activities, Railway Communication Procedures etc.
Diploma in Transport Economics and Management
Diploma in multi-modal transport and logistics management
Diploma in Rail Transport and Management
Diploma in Port Development and Management
[SIZE=1]Where should such a technical based college be based, aha you guessed it….[/SIZE]
Further install solar panel on train cars, on station canopies, buses and bus and stations to term cut the cost of running transport and illuminate the location. We don’t have to drill for solar energy, the colder countries have already deployed them and they don’t experience as much sunshine as in Africa.
Introduce and technical training course on manufacturing and maintaining the solar panels locally.
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What exactly is the point of this thread? You say they negotiated better but you don’t have any figures to quote. Then you say that they resold us old trains as If that negates the value they have provided? Then you go ahead and compare Beijing’s high speed rail and subway with Nairobi??
I heard they took a few hundred kenyans to study railway engineering. Those will be done in 5-6 years.
:D:D Feelings caught. Those railway stations you mentioned are not in the first ring, just like @Theuri wa kigogoine informed you. So it makes perfect sense to have a railway terminus in Syokimau and then build a feeder line to the city center.
Ni hayo tuu kwa sasa.
They sold us old trains by chinese standards, not by kenyans standards. on the subway i have no idea where you got the idea i compared , i said they built the main stations too far without building an alternative way to get there such as the subway. last beijing does not have high speed rail just subway. high speed rails is for intercity travel such as beijing-shanghai,
Boss, BCR ni nini? Do you really live in Beijing?
Do their old trains negate their value? A link to JKIA will be built. The main issue is your negotiation point which you made without any proof. Seems you don’t read enough news from Kenya.
They actually are , unless you dont know what first ring means. line two is beijing first ring , beijing railway station is on line two.
Beijing South and West stations which you mentioned are not in the first ring my friend.
I thought you you had some brains starting this thread but these statements just let you down. Syokimau station has MGR and its platform heading straight into CBD. Why build a subway we cant afford for a 20min journey on an existing railway connection? In which Kenya do you think building SGR railway into CBD and somehow out of it with compensation vultures flying above, will it be affordable?
Mind you the trains we bought are not old, they are 2005 models. More than a year with little hiccups and very reliable journey time. Go to Ethiopian thread and see the electric trains at the mercy of substandard electricity supply and goat herders (they saved costs by building railway at ground level) , TZ doesnt even have a metre laid but its being praised that its is more efficient. This TZ railway that costs $1.2b for 300km only. Not included is cost of train sets, New ports on reclaimed land, training, bridges over parks, fully separated grade and high embarkments, less stations, less weight capabilty e.t.c. Ours may actually be cheaper. Diesel was actually a good choice as we dont have good elec supply, upgrade can be done later as the line can handle 200kph train sets.
By the way, are you comparing a freight line to a high speed passenger line? have you seen containers on the same lines as those HSR lines in china? Millions of Chinese travelling and after economies of scale its still $80 for a trip? How much was it to build that HSR line? It was $35b. Can we afford that?
Yeap this guy can’t even get basic facts right.
Kumulikwa nayo.