YOU OPINION,EXPERIENCE AND ADVICE NEEDED

Hello Elders.Hope you all doing good.Today I post here to ask for views,opinion and advice…

This year has not been bad for me,given on matters money,at least I can say it’s the year sijafinywa sana and got some decent amnt save within 2025.

So I have got this Chile we’ve been at it for 2 yrs.:joy:I know the saying…Last two months,the Chile has sensed that I got some decent savings and since yeye mwenyewe hajakuwanga Ile financially secure/stable I don’t know where she got this idea of starting a business to at least earn something. Mimi I beat the math and I agreed to this and asked her if she has the spirit passion and willing to give it a try why not.And so she was to research and identify which one can she venture in…

So Jana, she brings the idea eti she would wish to start a Wines and Spirit shop,close to one of this learning institution za colle/uni hapa nairobi.Where she really pitch the idea of how profitable it is hadi naambiwa I should partner with her to start and run it…where she suggested the capital needed ni 200k…and as partners…I am to take a loan and finance it,and on her part,with the amount it will cover everything from rent,licences to the marchandise…

So i told her starting a bs is a good Idea but I’m not sure if her expectation of the profit will be met and also the expenses. I enjoyed how she pitched it how psyched she was and the excitement of touching big money(for her) hadi naambiwa how he bs will be making a profit of Ksh 15,000 per day what about in a month…:joy::joy:beat the math…lowest 300k

Kumpima, I told her right now I can’t raise that money but floated the idea of how about her friends to raise 100k and me the other and we put together.. her answer was that that’s impossible given her friends don’t trust her​:joy::joy: This made me laugh given when I asked her about who will run the sales and she had told me that her and her friends can do that…
I was left questioning and wondering akili yake ikoje…like her friends can’t trust her with their money but she can trust her friends with the sales​:joy::joy::joy:

Now to avoid the dramas,I told her I will think of it…and that is why here I am today…

Elders,hii biashara ya wines and spirits ikoaje,for those who have tried it or have an experience in that field ..is it a good idea to sink that given ndio ni biashara yake ya kwanza and she’s decided to go big at once?

I’m used to starting small and then expanding,where the capital is manageable for a mkulima talk of 50-100k…but not hii yake ya 200k which I’m sure will hit hata 300k. And saa hii pia sitaki mambo ya loan vile anasuggest eti the repayment period iwe in one year…

Personally,I was of the idea msichana atulie awache nistabilize kwanza na mambo za loans saa hii,also was thinking pengine hata is it a good idea to try these government bonds and securities au nitafute mahali nawezarusha ka 10k per month for a year ilete kitu nzuri…but vile nimemuona inamwasha…

Wadau, I’m all ears for your maoni,advice and experience …
Ama huyu mdada amepanga kunimaliza​:joy::joy::joy:

Mnajua tu kuna vile these daughters of eve have a sense ya kunusa pesa.

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A business idea should always arrive before the capital.

Reversing the order leads to failure.

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A friend of mine was speaking like this 10 years ago about the very same biz: wines and spirits.

Kanjo, police and the girl he hired ran him out of town. The girl would sell her own stock, instead of selling his.

He closed after 2 months.

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Hii kanairo jifanyie biz mwenyewe usipatie dem yako utalia. Hata hizo red flags umeona ukiongea na yeye zinakushow how her brain thinks. Usijaribu. Ujifungulie chini ya waba ama ulenge hio risto.

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Thank you…I thought of the same after hearing and seeing on of my former colleague open the same bs…alikuwa ameshinda tu kugeuza hao service ladies,mambo ya polisi na kanjo kila mara,and then pia hao wadada kuuzia customers nyau a habit that kills the bs kichini…this was in Nanyuki..I feared but sikuwa nataka nimwambie papo hapo how bad it is…so nikamwambia afanye utafiti next year anapata jibu.

Thanks and I value and appreciate your input ,Elder

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Thank you Elder,

Mimi Ile excitement niliona kwa macho yake wakati ana pitch hiyo idea, and how that profit was exaggerated ,4 time in 2 months…nikajua hapa…nitavalishwa kamisi​:joy::joy:
And again vile alishaniambia “you just need to trust me​:joy::joy:” nikajua pia hapo bukta nanunuliwa…management ya pesa mkononi mwake,Its gonna take long to risk again

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Mwambie huna pesa,kanjo na karao will give you sleepless nights.Students wote sio walevi so kuna days ata 5k ufiki.

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Mwambie sheria hairuhusu kufungua bar ama wines and spirits karibu na unifasiti. Atakamatwa atombwe na karao.
Alafu saa hii usibahatishe na loans, economy iko katika pilkapilka ya taharuki.

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A certain KDF soldier alichukua loan and kufungulia girlfriend yake after so much pestering, pale Nakuru a wines and spirits.One day he came from Somalia unexpectedly.and decided to surprise her kwa shop!Let me tell you …maina…

Alipata demu wake behind the counter,ina very compromising position, amekalia mwanaume deki wale ballers hukua na kakitu and frequent customer.Ile war walionyeshwa na akapasua kila kila kitu.Apparently huyo generous baller amekua akimchungua khupipi !

This is one business if you are investing to marry her..you might be the bridge for her to meet her prince charming!If you want a mother to your kids, that is a red flag that you cannot simply ignore!

Trust your first instinct!

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Take the same approach as a lending institution…biz ikue going concern with financials na collateral…bila hio walk away.

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Kuna karao aliua watu waiyaki way, akau khupipi, na akajinyuria.

Don’t mix women with business. Kwanza how they are wired to lap it up to money. Someone richer than you will always exist, as the scenario stated above

Might be a good excuse to cut off that woman who amebebewa akili na her gals. No excuse. Reverse the roles uone vile utaachwaa, loans zionee mbali, unless it’s to inject a business you have mastered and know well.

Ama umwambie iko 50k pekee, aanze nayo kachuom ka manusu. Her response should be what you need to know.

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Two BONOBOS
U CAN’T BE HELPED
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Hehe..Hii inakaa ya r/Kenya. Kama ni ukweli hiyo pesa nusu tumia mathe ingine afadhali ulipie kunguru zetech ruiru January rent wazazi watakuwa msoto utapewa kitu fresh hautaregret.The ONLY reason you are talking in the first place ni ju ya wet crack not a prior business partnership.

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Thank you…Elder. i suspected huyu either ameskiza wamama wenzake wakamdanganya au Kuna vile Ako…I’m not boarding nimfungulie

Thank you…naona Mimi January najipanga na kuachwa juu nimekataa kuempower her​:joy::joy::joy::joy:
Nitaambiwa namwonea wivu sitaki ajiendeleze

Licence inakula almost 50k per year, Rent pia depends na landlord. Enye itakula 80% ni stock. So hio 300k for a start si mbaya. So if I may advice ukitaka a business hio si mbaya bt trusting her ndio a problem. Why not start the business yoourself and let her just be a part timer. Yeye apige tu sales wewe ni kushugulika na stock na running the biz… Then utajua bidii yake

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Descendant of Eve has seen God’s blessings and is looking to derail the train

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Thank you Elder, huyu mdada angekuwa mtu wa kutulia na mpole,April angepata hiyo au something good,but yeye ashaweka eti aanze January…anataka kuniwekea timeline na deadlines as if yeye ndio atatoa hiyo pesa

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