So it was the ego at work, competing for the sake of competing
Satan is like that si even Job it was competing for the sake of competing. God bragging to Satan and then the match begun?
Isn’t this the same spirit we see today in very many spheres, so much stress because people want to prove they’re the best, undefeated, the champions of one thing or another? Power play is everywhere. I think the world is just sick en mass.
That story of Job leaves me with a lot of questions especially the first part of the how the duel begun, that conversation between God and the devil is mind boggling .I did not know that the devil could just walk up to God and they start talking like that.
Bible says God had a meeting with his sons, more like an annual family gathering, and Satan was present… mtoto wako akipotea njia does not disqualify them from joining family forums, …my opinion though
You want to squint at feelings?
I don’t think that God considers Satan as a prodigal son more like a son of perdition. First I thought there’s a lot of security in the highest heaven and Satan could not leave the second heaven or whatever him and his minions are based to go lurk around God.
But what was even more shocking was how God speaks to Satan. I’m trying to put myself in God’s shoes and talk that way to someone who attempted a coup, had to be thrown out and he took a third of your angels. He talks to him so kindly, like they have never had any beef. Who can understand God?
Juxtapose the story of Moses body and the story of Job, makes perfect sense.
Keep your enemies closer? I think God would be nice to his enemies too, perceived or not. And, God’s story is incomplete without Satan who is Natas and is also Santa. I don’t think the Bible or any religious text was meant to be interpreted literally. The Bible is an allegory of the journey the sun takes across the sky. It is a subliminal tale of the correlation between the heavenly celestial bodies and man, in both the macrocosm and microcosm. Thus, as above, so below.
Surely folks don’t think Jesus was a real live human living in the desert at a time when no conceivable language had a invented a letter “J”. But he is the seed that can be cultivated in man, can feed him and give him everlasting life. Surely, your oppressor cannot be expected to give you tools that will liberate you, rather, destroy and enslave you. That is why religion is the perfect tool for control of multitudes. Opium they say.
Some feelings can make you squint. Why not do the same to those feelings as they do to you? I say it is time to stop playing victim.
Biblical hekayas are meant to stupefy.
11 I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. 3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 4 They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth.”[a] 5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. 6 They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.
7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.
11 But after the three and a half days the breath[b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.
13 At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe has passed; the third woe is coming soon.
15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:
“The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
and he will reign for ever and ever.”
16 And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying:
“We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty,
the One who is and who was,
because you have taken your great power
and have begun to reign.
18 The nations were angry,
and your wrath has come.
The time has come for judging the dead,
and for rewarding your servants the prophets
and your people who revere your name,
both great and small—
and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”
19 Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm.
Its all here in revelation 11. The devil knew the scripture very well… There was a reason Elijah had been taken up by a chariot to heaven and never experienced death. Yet Moses did experience death, Though revelations was written after the death of moses and likely after the contention between Michael and satan but we do not know for sure as well as the intentions of satan as he roams this world he may have picked up a few things, may not have known exactly wag1 but would know that there is something planned for this one even after death he is not finished in his assignment.
hope this gives some answer, The devil is not stupid and would have seen something that is not being refferece the closes refrence we can know is in rev 11
God does not kick someone already down. It’s ungodly. Remember when Satan came in His presence, He asked him, “where are you from satan?” Satan replied, “from roaming aimlessly around the earth” a clear testimony this was loser who had lost it all
He could have used that body to dissuade the Jews from God as in impersonate Moses and have all Jews in his fold
Makena nitumie photo ya mattercore yako
Are we sure moses existed in the first place
He thought it was still warm. Satan is the leading homosexual after @kanguthu