white supremacists are adjusting their neanderthal lineage back to pre-history... ati they've 'discovered' they're now older than homo sapiens (BBC)

[SIZE=7]New type of ancient human discovered in Israel[/SIZE]
By Pallab Ghosh
Science correspondent

Published11 hours ago
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image captionThe skull fragment and jawbone found near Ramla in Israel
Researchers working in Israel have identified a previously unknown type of ancient human that lived alongside our species more than 100,000 years ago.
They believe that the remains uncovered near the city of Ramla represent one of the “last survivors” of a very ancient human group.
The finds consist of a partial skull and jaw from an individual who lived between 140,000 and 120,000 years ago.
Details have been published in the journal Science.
The team members think the individual descended from an earlier species that may have spread out of the region hundreds of thousands of years ago and given rise to Neanderthals in Europe and their equivalents in Asia.
The scientists have named the newly discovered lineage the “Nesher Ramla Homo type”.

Dr Hila May of Tel Aviv University said the discovery reshapes the story of human evolution, particularly those of the Neanderthals. The general picture of Neanderthal evolution had in the past been linked closely with Europe.
“It all started in Israel. We suggest that a local group was the source population,” she told BBC News. “During interglacial periods, waves of humans, the Nesher Ramla people, migrated from the Middle East to Europe.”
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image captionThe human finds were uncovered during the excavation of a sinkhole. Thousands of stone tools and animal remains were also found
The team thinks that early members of the Nesher Ramla Homo group were already present in the Near East some 400,000 years ago. The researcher have noticed resemblances between the new finds and ancient “pre-Neanderthal” groups in Europe.
“This is the first time we could connect the dots between different specimens found in the Levant” said Dr Rachel Sarig, also from Tel Aviv University.
“There are several human fossils from the caves of Qesem, Zuttiyeh and Tabun that date back to that time that we could not attribute to any specific known group of humans. But comparing their shapes to those of the newly uncovered specimen from Nesher Ramla, justify their inclusion within the [new human] group.”
Dr May suggests that these humans were the ancestors of Neanderthals.

“The European Neanderthal actually began here in the Levant and migrated to Europe, while interbreeding with other groups of humans.”
Others travelled east to India and China, said Prof Israel Hershkovitz, suggesting a connection between East Asian archaic humans and Neanderthals in Europe.
“Some fossils found in East Asia manifest Neanderthal-like features as the Nesher Ramla do,” he said.
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image captionOne of the stone tools used by the Nesher Ramla humans. It was produced with the same techniques used by modern humans at the time
The researchers base their claims on similarities in features between the Israeli fossils and those found in Europe and Asia, though their assertion is controversial. Prof Chris Stringer, from the Natural History Museum in London, has recently been assessing Chinese human remains.
“Nesher Ramla is important in confirming yet further that different species co-existed alongside each other in the region at the time and now we have the same story in western Asia,” he said.
“However, I think it’s a jump too far at the moment to link some of the older Israeli fossils to Neanderthals. I’m also puzzled at suggestions of any special link between the Nesher Ramla material and fossils in China.”

The Nesher Ramla remains themselves were found in what used to be a a sinkhole, located in an area frequented by prehistoric humans. This may have been an area where they hunted for wild cattle, horses and deer, as indicated by thousands of stone tools and bones of hunted animals.
According to an analysis by Dr Yossi Zaidner at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, these tools were constructed in the same manner that modern humans of the time also made their implements.
“It was a surprise that archaic humans were using tools normally associated with Homo sapiens. This suggests that there were interactions between the two groups,” Dr Zaidner said.
“We think that it is only possible to learn how to make the tools through visual or oral learning. Our findings suggest that human evolution is far from simple and involved many dispersals, contacts and interactions between different species of human.”
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[SIZE=7]it had to be israel ? :D:D:D:D:D:D:D[/SIZE]

the fact that they chose israel should tell you they’re trying to connect & validate their link to god… …basically what i say about black people , wamehijack

What came first? Neanderthals or homo sapiens?

the official narrative is that the homo-sapien lineage came first… (bonobo… homo habilis…homo erectus…homo-sapien ) ,

the neanderthal is technically a homo erectus…who branched out of africa earlier…but now they are saying neanderthals are actually older than the homo-sapien line…

and it all started in israel

.[SIZE=7]…this is a very significant thing[/SIZE][SIZE=4] ,it basically legitimises and validates white supremacy , slavery , colonialism , white jesus , the bible , God etc etc… they’re basically trying to say , that the neanderthal man was equal or even superior to the homo-sapien …:D[/SIZE]

[SIZE=4]they’re white washing history as always… they are putting neanderthals on a pedestal, why ? [/SIZE]

[SIZE=6]Etymology and definition[/SIZE]
Further information: Names for the human species and Human taxonomy
Some disagreement exists about the scientific definition of human. Some scientists date the Homo genus back only 100,000 years while others go back 11 million years and include Neanderthals, chimps and gorillas. Most say early humans first appeared between 2–3 million years ago.[2] In common usage the word human generally just refers to Homo sapiens, the only extant species.[3]

Human is a Middle English loanword from Old French humain, ultimately from Latin hūmānus, the adjectival form of homō (“man” — in the sense of humankind).[4] The native English term man can refer to the species generally (a synonym for humanity) as well as to human males. It may also refer to individuals of either sex, though this latter form is less common in contemporary English.[5]

The species binomialHomo sapiens” was coined by Carl Linnaeus in his 18th-century work Systema Naturae.[6] The generic nameHomo” is a learned 18th-century derivation from Latin homō, which refers to humans of either sex.[7] The species name “sapiens” means “wise”, “sapient”, “knowledgeable” (Latin sapiens is the singular form, plural is sapientes).[8]

[SIZE=6]Evolution[/SIZE]
Main article: Human evolution

The earliest documented representative of the genus Homo is Homo habilis, which evolved around 2.8 million years ago from Australopithicus.[14] H. erectus were the first of the hominina to leave Africa, between 1.3 and 1.8 million years ago. Homo sapiens emerged around 300,000 years ago from H. erectus (sometimes called [I]Homo[/I] [I]ergaster[/I]) that remained in Africa. H. sapiens migrated out of the continent gradually replacing local populations of H. erectus and other archaic humans.[15][16][17]

The “out of Africa” migration took place in at least two waves, the first around 130,000 to 100,000 years ago, the second (Southern Dispersal) around 70,000 to 50,000 years ago.[18][19] H. sapiens proceeded to colonize all the continents and larger islands, arriving in Eurasia 125,000–60,000 years ago,[20][21] Australia around 65,000 years ago,[22] the Americas around 15,000 years ago, and remote islands such as Hawaii, Easter Island, Madagascar, and New Zealand between the years 300 and 1280.[23][24]

Human evolution was not a simple linear or branched progression, but involved interbreeding between related species.[25][26][27] Genomic research has shown that hybridization between substantially diverged lineages was common in human evolution.[28] DNA evidence suggests that several genes of Neanderthal origin are present among all non-African populations, and Neanderthals and other hominins, such as Denisovans, may have contributed up to 6% of their genome to present-day humans.[25][29][30]

[SIZE=5]Like I told you, you or I can easily change history and declare that certain people were slaves instead of paid workers.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=5]We can even change history and say we built the pyramids. History can be what you want it to be.[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=5]This was reported yesterday :[/SIZE]

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It’s all politicized science similar to how Europeans classified Africans in the 1800s. It started with the Obama administration in 2010.

Basically, NEANDERTHAL = Donald Trump, his supporters, all Christians on earth or people who believe in God, anyone who believes the election was stolen, anyone who refuses to accept Covid came from bats, NATURALLY.

Neanderthal is basically the “White Supremacy” species according to wokeists.

HOMOSAPIENS WOKE = Obama, Biden, Kamala, ALL BLACK PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT OBAMA, All people who believe racism exists, woke society i.e homosexuals, abo.rtion supporters or baby killers, atheists, scientists, BLM, CRT etcetera.

What are you saying now? If neanderthal is homo erectus and homo erectus came b4 homo sapiens, how can homo sapiens came b4 neanderthal?

Whatever the case, these are just theories. The latest claim is based on construction of an assumed structure of the being in focus. Surprisingly, from just the two skull parts, they claim that it did not have a chin

Hii archeology ya binadamu imekuwa siasa.

hey , we all learnt this in form 2 history… im not an archaeologist …im just trying to show some people how the world works…

the matrix movie naskia was written by a woke black woman … it’s upto you africans to choose the RED pill or the BLUE pill…if you accept that you are an inferior negroe , uko ndani ya matrix …if you dont accept it , it means you are woke… if i wasnt woke i wouldnt have researched , i would accept that ni vizuri we are inferior and wasungu saved us , upgraded us to sub-human status , below them…

if you are conscious , you realise the tricks being played on the sleeping africans , corona sweeps the world and you dont see the geopolitics , china goes to space and mars and you dont see the racial wars…the chinese realised what’s up and look at how they are being fought …the world is not what you think , you people are afraid of taking the vaccines for a reason…

@patco might be a racist kenyan indian or wariah… other africans wanatetea yesu pekee but patco is against africans as a whole… any african knows colonialism happened but patco will still twist the narrative , he sees the world through american politics ONLY…

…by the way [SIZE=7]PATCO , let me ask [/SIZE], tell me

what do you think about AFRICANS or BLACK PPL … our origin , status , history …etc etc…

an African painting to invoke your spirit

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So Adam and eve ni hekaya walitumia during colonization

This has nothing to do with white supremacy.

Homo Sapiens did not descend from Neanderthals. They met and intermixed with Neanderthals when they landed in Europe.
Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals have a common ancestor. The two lineages split around 500,000 years ago. Both are said to have descended from Homo Heidelbergensis (Kabwe Man). The Homo Heidelbergensis that migrated to Europe 500,000 years ago later evolved into Neanderthals. Whereas the Homo Heidelbergensis that remained in Africa evolved into Homo Sapiens around 300,000 years ago.

All Human beings including Africans Europeans, Asians, Aborigines, Native Americans etc came from Homo Sapiens who existed in Africa 60,000 years ago.

Around 60,000 years ago, Homo Sapiens started to leave Africa in very large waves of migration starting with the ancestors of the Aborigines who left Africa perhaps 60,000 years ago and traveled along South Asia staying along the coast and ending up in Australia around 45,000 years ago.
Waves of immigration left Africa in the subsequent years. Many came back. But around 40,000 years ago, the advance of the Sahara desert prevented them from returning. Many went to Europe where they met Neanderthals.

This new species found might be an intermediate between Homo Heidelbergensis and neanderthalensis. Or it might be a hybrid, a result of mating between two different species. In those days Humans did not discriminate when it came to finding mates. Neanderthals mated with Humans, Denisovans and Vice versa.

Our African ancestors also mated with an unknown archaic species who still existed about 50,000 years ago. A human skull was found in Iwo Eleru Nigeria that has characteristics of Humans and an Archaic Human species.

The classic evolutionary line goes: Australopithcus → Habilis → Erectus (Ergaster) → Heidelbergensis–> Sapiens

But its not a straight line because there was a lot of interbreeding between species: Habilis likely bred with Erectus, Naledi and Rudolfensis.
We know Homo Sapiens bred with Denisovans, Neanderthals, and other still unknown species.

they are saying neanderthals are linked to an ancient hominid…their ancestors

‘…But comparing their shapes to those of the newly uncovered specimen from Nesher Ramla, justify their inclusion within the [new human] group."
Dr May suggests that these humans were the ancestors of Neanderthals…’

ndio hawa machinku with their own discovery…

[SIZE=7]Scientists hail stunning ‘Dragon Man’ discovery[/SIZE]
By Pallab Ghosh
Science correspondent

Published2 hours ago
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image captionThe Dragon Man’s skull is huge, with a brain size about the same as the average for our species
Chinese researchers have unveiled an ancient skull that could belong to a completely new species of human.
The team has claimed it is our closest evolutionary relative among known species of ancient human, such as Neanderthals and Homo erectus.
Nicknamed “Dragon Man”, the specimen represents a human group that lived in East Asia at least 146,000 years ago.
It was found at Harbin, north-east China, in 1933, but only came to the attention of scientists more recently.
An analysis of the skull has been published in the journal The Innovation.
One of the UK’s leading experts in human evolution, Prof Chris Stringer from London’s Natural History Museum, was a member of the research team.

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“In terms of fossils in the last million years, this is one of the most important yet discovered,” he told BBC News.
“What you have here is a separate branch of humanity that is not on its way to becoming Homo sapiens (our species), but represents a long-separate lineage which evolved in the region for several hundred thousand years and eventually went extinct.”
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image captionArtist’s impression of what Dragon Man may have looked like. His skull suggests he was powerfully-built and rugged
The researchers say the discovery has the potential to rewrite the story of human evolution. Their analysis suggests that it is more closely related to Homo sapiens than it is to Neanderthals.
They have assigned the specimen to a new species: Homo longi, from the Chinese word “long”, meaning dragon.
“We found our long-lost sister lineage,” said Xijun Ni, a professor at the Chinese Academy of Sciences and Hebei GEO University in Shijiazhuang.
He told BBC News: “I said ‘oh my gosh!’ I could not believe that it was so well preserved, you can see all the details. It is a really amazing find!”

The skull is huge compared with the average skulls belonging to other human species, including our own. Its brain was comparable in size to those from our species.
Dragon Man had large, almost square eye sockets, thick brow ridges, a wide mouth, and oversized teeth. Prof Qiang Ji, from Hebei GEO University, says it is one of the most complete early human skull fossils ever discovered.
“It has a mosaic combination of primitive and (more modern features), setting itself apart from all the other species of human,” the researcher explained.
The scientists believe that Dragon Man was powerfully-built and rugged. But little is known about how he lived, because his skull was removed from the site in which it was found.
That means that there is currently no archaeological context, such as stone tools, or other elements of culture.
The skull was reportedly discovered in 1933 by a construction worker helping build a bridge on the Songhua river running through Harbin, in Heilongjiang province, which translated means Black Dragon River, hence the new human’s name…

The city was under Japanese occupation at the time. Suspecting its cultural value, the Chinese worker smuggled it home, to keep it out of the hands of occupiers. He hid it at the bottom of his family’s well, where it remained for around 80 years. The man told his family about the skull before he died, which is how it eventually got into the hands of scientists.
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image captionThe researchers claim the form of ancient human on the far left may have evolved into the relatively modern Dragon Man on the far right over millions of years
Dragon Man joins a number of early human remains uncovered in China that have proven difficult to categorise. These include remains from Dali, Jinniushan, Hualongdong and the Xiahe jawbone from the Tibetan Plateau.
There has been a fierce debate about whether these remains represent primitive examples of Homo sapiens, Neanderthals, a human group called the Denisovans, or something else entirely.
The Denisovans were first identified from DNA retrieved from a 50,000-30,000-year-old finger bone discovered in Denisova Cave, Russia. Because the remains associated with this sister lineage to the Neanderthals were so fragmentary, the group has been described as a “genome in search of a fossil record”.
Prof Marta Mirazon Lahr, from the University of Cambridge, believes that Dragon Man was, in fact, a Denisovan.
“The Denisovans are this fascinating mystery population from the past. There is a suggestion (from DNA evidence) that the jawbone found in the Tibetan Plateau might be a Denisovan,” she said. “And now because the jawbone from Tibet and Dragon Man look like each other - now we might actually have the first face of the Denisovan.”
And a group that recently published details of remains from Israel belonging to a possible precursor species to the Neanderthals, believe Dragon Man might be descended from humans that first emerged in the Levant region.
But the Chinese researchers maintain that the hard-to-classify fossils from East Asia represent the gradual evolution of a new species. Prof Ni has a gracious response to those that disagree with this assessment.
“The results will spark a lot of debate and I am quite sure that a lot of people will disagree with us,” he said.
“But that is science and it is because we disagree that science progresses.”
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I don’t see where superiority comes from given that Europeans and Africans are descended from the Homo Sapiens who existed in Africa 60,000 years ago.
And Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals both have a common ancestor 500,000 years ago.

So no lineage is older than the other. We all have a common ancestor.
You are misreading the whole issue. Discoveries like these happen all the time. And when they happen, the person who discovered them always advances a controversial theory.

i focused on the timeline… the numbers vary , but you are right…

1 …about the new Nesher Ramla Homo … (not connected to The Homo Heidelbergensis)

The team thinks that early members of the Nesher Ramla Homo group were already present in the Near East some 400,000 years ago. The researcher have noticed resemblances between the new finds and ancient “pre-Neanderthal” groups in Europe.

2 …official homo sapien history (wikipedia )

The earliest documented representative of the genus Homo is Homo habilis, which evolved around 2.8 million years ago from Australopithicus.[14] H. erectus were the first of the hominina to leave Africa, between 1.3 and 1.8 million years ago. Homo sapiens emerged around 300,000 years ago from H. erectus (sometimes called [I]Homo[/I] [I]ergaster[/I]) that remained in Africa. H. sapiens migrated out of the continent gradually replacing local populations of H. erectus and other archaic humans.[15][16][17]

3. Your input…

Homo Sapiens did not descend from Neanderthals. They met and intermixed with Neanderthals when they landed in Europe.
Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals have a common ancestor. The two lineages split around 500,000 years ago. Both are said to have descended from Homo Heidelbergensis (Kabwe Man). The Homo Heidelbergensis that migrated to Europe 500,000 years ago later evolved into Neanderthals. Whereas the Homo Heidelbergensis that remained in Africa evolved into Homo Sapiens around 300,000 years ago.

What you have described is race politics that implies that white supremacists came from a separate ape known as a neanderthal.

That is exactly what Obama govt started selling in the year 2010. Govt funded research.

Huoni mnakuwaga na upus nyingi sana. What do you mean by “in those days” ???

What is stopping a young tender and virile Bikusu boy like @uwesmake from attacking a colobus monkey and destroying it’s vagina mercilessly?

Point is how can a human be attracted to a hairy ape??? Hio ni upus.

[SIZE=5]Kila mtu na skull yao. :D:D:D:D[/SIZE]