Msee akipass watu wapande ndizi kwa grave, what does that mean? Wakanyama na wazee hebu mjibu
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In such case it’s where someone died but the body was never found.
The grave with banana is symbolic.
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Wrong. When a deceased person body is not available for burial (eg alibebwa na maji), we the Gikuyu Bury a banana stem.(muramba) to give the grieving family closure. All burial rites are observed
We plant a banana in a grave when the grave is dug but the expected dead guy is either found alive or a mistaken identity. This is done to shield the family from death due to an open grave ie the dug hole is presumed to have been dug for the sole purpose of planting a banana. No burial rites and the planting of the banana is done by young men
@mabenda4 i right. Also, burrying of the stem is only done by those installed as elders according to the Kikuyu (not Ktalk) traditions and customs
Mtu pia akikufa bila mtoto tunapanda a mango tree or either a fruit bearing tree kwa hiyo kaburi yake tukuwe tunakula mazao. Mtu wa kujinyonga anapakwa jivu kwa matako. :D:D
Hata western tunazika mgomba wa ndizi ,na mtu akipatikana baada ya mazishi nini hufanyika ,ktalk elders and sponsors?
But matiba alisema kyuks never used to bury their dead, ati walikua wanatupwa kwa msitu. Hii ya ndizi ilitokea wapi?
Banana ni symbolic ya mutree… so tukipanda ndizi tunamaanisha the one lying under is a tree holder who died juu ya coomer
Matiba was referring to the kikuyus who used to trade with akina Abraham b4 Jesu azaliwe
What if a banana is planted by Mungiki, the guy is in the grave, and he has kids? What would that mean?
I need to explain in detail about this particular right of passage according to the customs and traditions of the kikuyu culture.
Like I explained above, in the absence of a body to bury, a deceased person was buried symbolically by using a muramba(banana stem. All burial rites, including shaving were observed.
When a grave is dug to bury a deceased person, and for whatever reason there is no burial( resurrection, court order, identity mixup) we plant a banana in the hole to prevent the gaping hole from claiming another life.
When a mature woman dies without a child, we smeared ashes on her butt.
When a mature man dies without a child, anachomwa mwiba as Muthuthi lea matako
The Gikuyu have always buried their dead, proven by the Gikuyus grave word Mbirira and sedentary life.
Due to many interemariages with nomadic and pastoral communities, most who did not bury their dead due to their wandering lifestyles, some sections of the Gikuyu, particularly those on the periphery and neighbouring The Maa and Dorobo, adopted the practice of discarding their dead in the forest. But I must hasten to add that the Gikuyu did in fact abandon live new born babies in the forest…eg one of the twins, a baby born with teeth, Tuhuno , etc. This newborns were considered bad omens .
Death in Gikuyu was a passage…to the ancestor world… and those dead were considered to be sleeping…hence the term…Ngoma…meaning those who have slept. This Ngoma would at time come back to harass the living and often had to receive a sacrifice…and when they became a nuisance…they were banished by a mundu mugo through a very elaborate Gutahikio