Vindicate innocent Judas!

Why is it that people still say that Judas betrayed Jesus?
Judas never betrayed nobody! He NEVER betrayed nobody! How can a person who was as famous as Jesus was, someone who was as popular a celebrity as celebrities come, be said to have been betrayed by his most trusted confidante?
Jesus himself ought to be blamed for his own death, ie, if he actually died the way the gospels say! For he had chosen to live his life dangerously, even endangering the lives of his followers! You can’t walk all across the place preaching treason and expect leniency from the powers that be! No, you can’t! And yet that’s exactly what Jesus did! And that was not all!
He would traverse Judea, kwa mapana na marefu, radicalising the youth and inciting them to rebel! Yeah, he did that! He worked like today’s Alshabab(and I’m trying to be civil here). He recruited several directly and instructed the recruits to net others, as many as they could! Some had high flying careers, some were family men, even harlots were brought into his fold!!
Surely, a man like that, by whatever means, is by no means incognitus! Everybody in that country must have known him! And you tell us that Judas betrayed him? Oh, please!
And this was really unbearable to poor Judas! He could not stand the stigma of being labeled a traitor. He was so loyal to his master, he could die for him! And that’s exactly what he did!
So today, over 2000 years after, stop spreading that lie already!
Vindicate Judas!

Blasphemy!!

I will start avoiding your threads bro…lest i be near you when the lightening strikes. Jesus died for u…if you dont believe that, the least u csn do is to walk away silently. He is God, dont provoke his wrath. Fight those who at worst can hurt only the body, not Christ.

Really? Jesus is God, and he died for you?
Do you know who God is,or even the slightest hint?

God exists, not that of the Bible.

Please know your bible:

Bible says that God is not man
‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)
‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)

Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible
‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40)

‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)

‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31)

‘the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5)

The Bible says that God is not a son of man
‘God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23:19)

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[li]The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’[/li]‘so will the son of man be’ (Matthew 12:40)
[li]‘For the son of man is going to come’ (Matthew 16:27)[/li][li]‘until they see the son of man coming in His kingdom.’ (Matthew 28)[/li][li]‘But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority’ (Mark 2:10)[/li][li]‘because he is the son of man’ (John 5:27)[/li][/ul]

If Jesus was born in our times he would be considered an extremist or a terrorist sympathizer.

The point the writwr was trying to make…

Here comes the dry eyed fool

Exactly!

Qur’an says:Mayahdilahi fala mudilAllah wa mayudil fala haadiAllah, so sometimes don’t bother, just pray that Allah guides them.

Sticks and stones little one…sticks and stones

Wachageni kujifanya venye mumesoma brary chieth. Jesus is God, u all kmow that, but u think u will sound sophistcated if you rubish His name. Most of you would go hidding in your mothers bedroom were u to hear that an earthly president, or even a local cop was looking to harm you. Yet, Christ, who is able to not only erase u from existence, but may wrap up this universe as we know it, Him you call names and despise. You are all a wretched lot. Just because He is all merciful and overlooks your transgression makes him not impotent. Mock Him all you want, but weep, friends, for if Ever His wrath is Awakened, you will not stand His Might.
Lets talk crap of our fellow beings, but God, or Allah, or Krishna or any other Deity that is above our comprehension, that, we must swerve clear. Be wise my people, choose your battles wisely, God is not your agemate, meffi

Another point is how Jesus predicted the betrayal and did nothing to prevent it. Him being a deity meant his prophecy cast Juda’s fate to stone and set a determined moral path for him. Judas could not have refused to betray Jesus even if he wanted to.

In short, Judas had no free will when he did what he did.

The poor guy ended up being one of the biggest villain in the history of mankind without a choice.

Nobody has insulted Jesus so far bro, God is not beyond our comprehension, because he has given us a description of who he is in the various holy books and all convey the same message about God; HE IS NOT A MAN

So, my bro, does equating Jesus to alshabab , to you, same as heaping praise on Him. What would be your take were the same crazies up there use the same terms on The prophet [SIZE=1]SAW. [/SIZE]

@Da Vinci Nice critical thinking

Judas just did what a normal politician does. Grab the corrupt opportunity. If it’s in the current economic, and take judas=gavana pablo/sonko/munya etc, they could have taken that 40million to seal the deal. In short, judas had a price.

You can’t say that about Judas, @byro! He was one very honest fellow. No one can say for sure whatsoever that the money he received from the Pharisees was his payment for pointing out Jesus! Jesus was already well known! And Judas was the treasurer for Jesus and his entire group! There’s no record in the gospels where it is written that he ever misappropriated their funds!

In your very selective quotes, why disregard the many instances in the Bible where Jesus is said to be God.
For God do loved…that He gave His only son…
Emmanuel… God with us
In my fathers house…
Etc
All these testify to Jesus being an Equal in the Holy trinity, yet in three is One.
We my not comprehend, rightfully because we are a creation, The creator knows best. We are just codes, some like some in this thread, are bad code. Yet the programmer, our creator, God Almighty, may decide at any time to hit Save, Delete , reserve or strike with a bolt of lightening. Still, its so easy for the programs so coded, to chest thump…we coded ourselves…chidwe

just believe?