Ukraine : The Writing is on the Wall

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General Ivashov.

On February 7, 2022, retired Russian general warned Vladimir Putin not to go to war with Ukraine, accusing the leader of whipping up an ‘artificial’ conflict to distract from his domestic problems.
In other words, Putin was thinking the war would deflect scrutiny of Russia’s economy.

Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov, 78, penned an open letter titled ‘On the The Eve of War’ in which he blasted Putin’s ‘criminal policy of provoking a war’ despite Russia not facing any ‘critical threats’.

Ivashov, who has retired from military services since being fired in 2001, is active in politics as the chairman of the All-Russian Officers’ Assembly.
He previously served as Putin’s chief of military cooperation in the Ministry of Defense.

Ivashov posted an open letter on the assembly’s website he said he feared Russia will become a ‘pariah of the world community’ if an invasion is launched, and called on Putin to resign.
How prescient was his letter.
Russia, and especially Putin, are the greatest pariahs in the world today.

The decorated general, was not a moderate but was one of the most respected and hawkish generals in the Russian MoD.
He is known as a hardline nationalist who still champions the Soviet system and is close to the remains of the Communist party.

He was fired by Putin in 2001.
He has become a fierce critic of the Russian president - and had frequently called for him to resign for being too soft and protecting a corrupt elite at the expense of the public, accusing him of ‘crimes against Russia’.

His latest intervention shows that there is at least some opposition to a war with Ukraine within Russia.
A petition was signed by 5,000 citizens demanding Putin call off the conflict.

Ivashov said: ‘As for external threats, they are certainly present.
But, according to our expert assessment, they are not currently critical, directly threatening the existence of Russian statehood and its vital interests.’

He goes on to say “Therefore, the explosive situation surrounding Ukraine is primarily artificial and self-serving for some internal forces, including in Russia.”

In other words, it is Russia itself creating the need for an invasion.
Not external sources.

In other words, NATO is not a critical threat.
The EU is not a critical threat.
Ukraine is not a critical threat.
The US is not a critical threat.

It seems some in Russia have seen the light …

Well said. Putin’s losing this war as expected from the beginning. :stuck_out_tongue:

Throughout this war, the Kremlin has been careful to distance Russia’s president from any bad news coming from the front line.
In November, Russia withdrew from the southern Ukrainian city of Kherson, a major strategic defeat for Moscow. The announcement to retreat, though, was made by Gen Sergei Surovikin, commander of Russian forces in Ukraine. President Putin was meanwhile pictured touring a neurological facility and did not make any comment on the situation in Kherson.

https://www.kenyatalk.com/index.php?threads/putin-has-more-to-lose-economically-with-ukraine-invasion-experts-believe.216011/page-8#post-4020500

Russia has been ‘losing the war’ since last April lol. Western propaganda machine should just stick to mharo news like coronavirus.

They are not winning it either …

War is not a picnic…
Something you indulge in for a few hours then go home …

War is Serious business …
Not something you start on a whim or because you are having a bad day …

It took 6 years for the British to send a clear message to Adolf Hitler …

Putin will be gone in less time and Russians will pay a dear price for this Invasion …

SLAVA UKRAINE …

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You must be completely brainwashed if you believe any of that nonsense. But haisuru… akili ni yako.

You must be delusional if you even think a Nation of 44 million tough Individuals are going to roll over and let Putin and his lame Conscripts take over their Country …

What was to be a 3 day event is past 9 months and hotter than ever …

It’s early days in this conflict …
Let’s see what happens over the next 6 months … :D:D

If I was Putin , I would be very worried by these developments … :D:D

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NATO isn’t a critical threat to Russia?

This one-sided view of history is just alarming.

Russia invaded Ukraine… Yes.

The US destroyed Iraqw and Libya.

Or were those critical threats to the US? More than a NATO base on Russias borders is to Russia?

Australia is screaming threats that it will not allow China to get a military base in a willing New Zealand.

But when Russia does the same, it’s a problem.

Think about this critically. Would the US allow China or Russia to have a base in Canada?

Bakhmut has fallen,soledar is encircled. Neonazi are retreating. Msito Putin has stationed soldiers in Belarus from Kiev onslaught.
The Domino effects will spill over. After Kiev has collapsed Ukraine will cease to exist. If it will exist it will be landlocked. Odessa will be annexed. Odessa will be used as a reward for Ukraine if they sign peace treaty on Russian terms.

I wonder if some of you went to school…

Almost everyone shares a border with someone…
( …even you share a borders with your neighbors… )

Did you know that since 1865 , Russia is only separated from the USA by 55 miles of Ocean across from the US State of Alaska…???
Why is that not an issue for Russia … ???
( …that is even a smaller distance than China to Taiwan…)

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If you are paranoid or feel insecure about them , you install a security fence , install alarms and hire G4S to patrol your premises …

That’s why Nations maintain Armies as a deterrent and a guarantee of Sovereignty…

But you do NOT Invade and ANNEX parts of your neighbor’s plot on the pretext that you want to secure your security…
Because if that ever became a trend , no one would ever be safe…

NATO is a DEFENSIVE force that exists for the sole purpose of securing the territorial integrity and security of member European Nations…
NATO has never OCCUPIED and ANNEXED anyone’s territory, ever …

The same in our own case , applies to the African Union … (… although it is not as effective and efficiently deployed…)

So Putin needs to stop his bullshit , UNILATERALLY and UNCONDITIONALLY withdraw from ALL annexed Ukraine territory and make reparations for all the USD 850 Billion of damage he has caused to Ukraine National Infrastructure…

Independent International War Crimes Tribunals and the ICC at the Hague will take care of the other issues related to Genocide of the Ukrainian people…

If in recent times , the World was able to deal effectively with Hitler , Tojo , Pol Pot and Saddam Hussein …
Putin will not be the exception …

SLAVA UKRAINE …

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There is a BONUS in Ukraine … :D:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2BS17pXKGk

Never occupied, but has ‘humanitarian intervention’.

They bombed the hell out of Libya BTW.

Also bombed Afghanistan after 9/11.

This kind of willful brainwashing is what keeps Africans forever in servitude.

Do you know how many non combatants the US govt has killed in the past 20 years?

How many non combatants has Russia killed in the same amount of time?

And the argument of Alaska is very ignorant.

Its a very poor place strategically to attack Russia from with boots on the ground because it’s a icy outlier of Russia.

Here’s the interesting bit you ignore:

Ukraine is just 1000KM from Moscow
Alaska is over 7000KM from Moscow.

Also NATO has proved very deceptive in going against their own promises.

Verbal recorded promises were made by NATO not to advance EastWards… But they ignored those assurances to Russia.

Also, they bombed Afghanistan after 9/11 despite terrorist threats not being covered by their agreements. Why?

Because NATO is just the US.

Piper calls the tune.

The US is by far the biggest financier of NATO… So you can be damn sure NATO is for US interests.

US interests have had a history of destroying Nations but it’s never been a problem because it’s black and brown people killed.

When Blue eye Ukrainian Nazis are touched, the world screams.

Even Africans who watched the most vibrant economy in Africa(Libya)destroyed, still defend the US.

And guess who loudly spoke against the invasion of Libya? RUSSIA

@rexxsimba ati NATO is a defensive force…

:D:D:D:D:D:D

Are you aware of any Sovereign National territory ever annexed by NATO forces …??

If you do , kindly let us know … :D:D:D

That’s a play of words…

Or are you suggesting that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is worse than what NATO did to Libya because they didn’t claim the land for themselves?

Guess where Libyan oil goes to?

Do you know they bombed roads and all manner of infrastructure in Libya?

That’s a play of words. Call it attacking sovereign Nations.

And it’s not defensive when a Nation poses no threat to your borders!!!

@rexxsimba NATO is an organization defending US interests… That’s the reality of the organization.

It’s funded and armed for the largest part by US.

I mean every Nation could leave NATO and leave the US alone and NATO would still retain its bite

Libya recruited , equipped it’s Nationals who blew up a US civil passenger carrier…
There was payback for that similar to that of Osama bin Laden …

No Nation I know of has ever annexed Libyan territory …
There is no NATO or US presence in Libya …

The current mess in Libya is of their own internal making , fuelled by Arab neighbors on one side and Russian arms on the other …

Libyans are free to sell their oil to whomever they wish to sell it to …

But , as usual …
You are mixing up issues …

The issue here is can a neighbor Nation attack , annex and attempt to “Russify” the Nationals of a neighbor Sovereign Independent Nation in this day and age …???

In recent history , only 4 fools have attempted such a foolish adventure …
Hitler , Tojo and Saddam Hussein paid the ultimate price …

Putin is next … :D:D:D

As the west runs its propaganda mills, Russia is walking the walk…
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I pray for Russia since it’s common sense a world without Russia will be run by bully USA and we will all be subjected to alien policies of uncle Sam including the LGBT agendas to destroy family units

All Putin has to do to end the hostilities is to move to legalize same sex marriages in Russia. That has been the agenda of the West]s brand of ‘covilization’. Understand why their type of culture - the music, theatre and films etc are full of such shiet. That is probably why Mandela whose first agenda as president was legalizing the garbage and went on to become an overrated ‘freedom’ icon and Mugabe a hated ‘homophobic’. If you speak against that nonsense you get yourself sanctions and a possible terror listing if you have nothing of value to the NATO/EU uncircumcised blond and blue eyed germanic overlords. “Slava Russ!”