Trump "DRC Peace Plan" Collapse

Not sure where you get verified data from but last time I checked , ISIS in various forms , is still in active or hibernation phase in Africa the Middle East and even Australia..

  • 2 US military shot in Syria 2 days ago.
  • Jews shot in Australia
  • assorted terrorist activities in the Sahel , Mozambique and the entire Horn of Africa.

“Operation Linda Inchi” was doing okay until politicians and a clueless AU / UN Force of 24,000 jumped in and diluted the entire operation.

Since the Blackhawk Down fiasco , the US has never publically shown it’s face in Mogadishu apart from the occasional Drone Strikes and aerial surveillance..

So much for your faith in US Marines..

Let’s see how Trump responds to the latest M23 advances into Uvira and Katanga Provinces…:joy::rofl::hot_springs:

For your information..

And especially under the Trump Administration and Pete Hegseth…

The US will not win any Wars anywhere..

  • not in Syria.
  • not in Afghanistan ( ..if they ever dare go back..)
  • not in Somalia
  • not in Haiti
  • not in Venezuela

Their top notch commanders , intelligence and war fighting capabilities have been undermined by brainless MAGA policy implementation , Project 2025 racist madness and interference by Elon Musk and DOGE.

Over to you..:blush:

I have to visit Dublin and hang out with straight shooters. After a decade in media, I can’t stand liars and people whose opinions change depending on the time of day, weather, the stars and other vague criteria.

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Jungle fighters vs high explosive bombardment can only end poorly. Refer to Vietnam’s operation Rolling Thunder for U.S. Army doctrine on jungle militia including the use of flamethrowers. Widely considered a particularly effective anti-personnel device.

Yes I think also these people don’t know exactly how warfare worked plays out. Very little comes out in public. To even consider M23 as a legit fighting force is crazy. A small “ Special Activities Division” could undo them properly . But people here will argue differently. Anyways it’s what it is. On the Congolese military, they’re laughable. One time a general drank so much he left his pistol at his mistress and couldn’t locate his gun at all . For a whole week. Kagame has this habit of having his people buy them lots of beer through women ( legit stuff btw) before he starts a probing attack or something . I kid you not.

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We may have some similarities. I’d rather deal with real people. You’re in the media? Maybe we can get a cold soda on me at some of these places soon.

I don’t get data my friend. Please let’s have some clarity. I KNOW these things from firsthand experience. Anyways have a good day.
Oh, on operation Linda Nchi, remember Shabaab saying “white people” were manning checkpoints and raiding their bases? Whom do yo suppose was doing that and giving Kenyans the long range air support and close combat aerial support? Even Ras Kamboni was armed and trained by someone else specifically for this. Their infiltration of Kismayo was monitored with marine activity ( sea I mean). Do I need to tell you more? Sometimes doc, think broadly.
I know someone whose uncle was a Kenyan general, and he was on the American side and the uncle to this day doesn’t know that . Hajui. Sometimes the guy drops hints about intercepted communications and the uncle will light up his eyes then go about his business without connecting the dots.

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Where do you two get your fantasy data and information from..??

The Operation Rolling Thunder that you reference was a totally ineffective strategy and failure that yielded diminished returns at best

Between 1965-1968 , the USAF dropped almost 1 million tons of bombs , missiles , rockets , Napalm ( ..and even poisonous Defoliants like Agent Orange which also affected their own troops..) but to no avail.

Imagine , over 300K Air Sorties just bombing the empty Jungle and Civilian populations..
(..that is more bombs dropped than in WW2 against Germany and Japan..)..!!

The occasional Vietcong infrastructure destroyed was quickly rehabilitated to enable the final retreat of US Forces and South Vietnamese Surrender when Saigon ( ..Ho Chi Min City ..) was overrun and occupied during the 1968 Tet Offensive.

The perennial problem the US has is always diving into conflicts without coherent policy , battle tactics , military goals or an exit strategy..

Copy paste the same foolishness in Iraq , Syria , Afghanistan , Somalia and Haiti.

Face the Facts..
The US was defeated in Vietnam by a bunch of skinny , 5ft jungle warriors armed with AK47’s , RPG’s , Bamboo Punji Stick Booby Traps and Communist Ideology..

For the benefit of many in here ..
This is how a Vietcong Booby Trap works ..:joy:

I can guarantee You both ..

If Trump is stupid enough to put boots on the ground in the DRC ( ..SEAL Team Six , Delta Force , Rangers , Marines or any combinations thereof ..) , a lot of body bags will be going back to the USA.

Let me end with a popular song of that era by Paul Hardcastle…!!:rofl:

..“All those who remember this War”..
..“Will not forget what they have seen”..
..“The destruction of Men in their prime”..
..“Who’s average Age was 19”..

They won’t need that much for the congolese rebels. As @OliphantTank correctly states, most don’t actually understand how warfare is carried out, and the difference airpower as a multiplier makes when applied in concentrated amounts.

Bonobos need to understand that there’s more to warfare than courage, ground operations and throwing spears.

This here is an AC-130 gunship in a format suitable for women and children. Can those M-23 rebels fight something like this? Because it can shoot through trees, mud walls and most types of light cover.

The Vietnam War was a horrible mistake, and it cannot be said to have achieved any good on either side. Official figures estimate almost 50,000 American soldiers killed in the course of the 10 years it was fought. The Vietnam figures must be horrendous. Part of that fighting was not even known to the public at the time. Many veterans who survived it suffered PTSD and were unable to reintegrate back into society. In fact some became homeless begging for help in the streets. In latter decades there were efforts to recognize their contribution and help them, but there are those who never recovered. That war ruined many lives

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Hmmm ..
Interesting..

Just so you also know ..

  • I have spent a little time in Dhobley , Kismayo and MGQ..
    (..doing what exactly there is not important for now..).
  • I had and still have Kin in various levels of KDF and some former classmates.
    I can assure you that I know more of what is going on at various levels and locations ( .. including many of the FOB’s and Camp Simba ..).

For the record , and based on my own first hand observations , I will repeat what I have often said here ..

Our War on Al Shabaab is failing because of poor leadership , poor strategy and poor tactics.

Neutering any terror organization efficiently just requires 3 steps.

  • identify the leadership , logistics and support structure.
  • target all with extreme prejudice via covert operations - no fanfare , no press conferences , no publicity.
  • those sheltering out of your operational reach can get “visits” from mercenary hitmen.

The Israeli MOSSAD have shown how to do it in their recent actions on Hezbollah and Hamas.

It is just disgraceful how we just abandoned our captured Men after the El Adde FOB disaster..:enraged_face::hot_springs:

Al Shabaab Executes KDF soldier Leonard Maingi captured at El Adde 2016 after Kenya Govt failed to meet demands.

Trump has plenty of those specialized forces.

I wonder why they are not deployed in Somalia , Haiti or DRC to resolve issues…???:joy::rofl:

3 million+ Vietnamese. Including civilians.

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I cannot answer this properly without doxing myself but I am very familiar with this one. And one of the soldiers. You’re right, kenya simply lacks the understanding. You’re not going to negotiate your way into a peaceful solution. It doesn’t work that way. Those guys were in Barrile around two months ago btw

You need to chill out. Nobody was defeated, not in Iraq, not in Syria. Operational objectives were met. What happened to the million man army in Iraq? The thing is, wars aren’t always about weaponry . And you can’t exterminate people endlessly. Also if they no longer present a threat to you or your interests, you leave. It’s not an ego pissing match

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They’re in Somalia , smart man. Black sites in several places. It’s just that you dont know or need to. In Haiti, they’ve been there even longer. In DRC, definitely there . Again, I told you of late 2000s right? Tells me you don’t know much.

Russia has gained a landmass equivalent to Italy or Spain at Portugal.

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Cementing Vladimir Putin’s reputation as the most powerful man of the 21st century.

Before using a nuke.

Meme Lol GIF by ALL SEEING EYES

Most of the big powers and even some smaller ones like the UAE have “operatives” or “proxies” all over ..Doing all kinds of shit ..
Nothing new or surprising there.

What annoys many is the distabilization , exploitation and causing endless misery , displacement and genocides just to get access to buffer strategic territory or mineral resources at a discount (..or for free..).

There is no desire to even develop those areas.
Just extract and leave your mess behind.

The playbook is well known ..
Since time immemorial DRC and Somalia have been of particular interest to European Colonialists , the USA (CIA) , Russia (KGB/FSB) , the Chinese and lately the UAE.

What pains me even more is idiots like Kasongo getting sucked in to do the dirty work for these people.

Technology and Wealth advantages do not equal military success..
Especially against individuals with extreme ideologies and survival goals.

This is why colonialists and invaders are always defeated eventually.

Trump has slowly morphed into a version of Putin.
They now share similar visions and ideas.
Endless Wars , Endless suffering , Endless Greed..

These conflicts have nothing to do with “National Security” in Ukraine , Venezuela , DRC , Darfur or Somalia..

Just Greed..

Let us see if your glorified “black sites” will win any Wars in Venezuela , Ukraine , Somalia , Haiti or the DRC ..

Watching with great interest..

I suspect you have a military orientation of some kind , but you are very conflicted.

  • if operational objectives were met , what are they still doing there..??
  • the Iraq million man army was simply dismembered…not exterminated ..

It’s various body parts are still actively running around serving various interests and still causing problems like the recent attack on US Servicemen.

The US , Russia and allied Colonialists should follow your own advise.

  • you cannot exterminate or exploit people endlessly.
  • if they are not a direct national security threat you leave them alone.
  • if you engage , you ensure that you have a viable and workable Exit Strategy.

The USA and Russia need to adopt a similar, smarter strategy like the Chinese.. :relieved_face: