The US denied Turkey F-35 sales....

[SIZE=7]…and now it may turn to Russia in a nightmare for NATO[/SIZE]
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[li]Alex Lockie[/li][li]Jun 1, 2018, 5:55 PM ET[/li][/ul]
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5887c4eeee14b6c7148b985f-1136-568.jpgLockheed MartinIsrael’s first F-35A Lightning II fighter jet is revealed during a ceremony.

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[li]The US Senate passed a defense spending bill recently that sought to prevent Turkey from getting 100 F-35 stealth jets, and now it could turn to Russia for the Su-57.[/li][li]Turkey has already agreed to buy one Russian weapons system, the S-400 missile defenses, which could give Moscow a window into NATO’s defenses, which would be a nightmare for the alliance.[/li][li]The Su-57 and Turkey’s embrace of Russian military equipment both pose serious threats to NATO and its aircraft.[/li][/ul]
The US Senate passed a defense spending bill recently that sought to prevent Turkey from getting the 100 F-35 stealth jets it ordered - and now Turkey could become the first buyer of Russia’s Su-57 “stealth” jet killer.

The US and Turkey have a number of ongoing diplomatic beefs, including Turkey claiming that the US is harboring clerics that urged a 2016 coup and detaining US citizens, and the US is claiming Turkey is a hub of illicit financing.

But on the military side, Turkey, a NATO ally, poses another threat by buying Russia’s S-400 missile defense system.

The S-400, one of the most advanced missile defense platforms around, is meant to engage and shoot down US jets, like the F-35, that rely on stealth.

Retired US Air Force Lt. Gen. David Deptula told Business Insider that NATO countries “don’t want to be networking in Russian systems into your air defenses” as it could lead to “technology transfer and possible compromises of F-35 advantages to the S-400.”
If Turkey owned the F-35 and the S-400, it would give Russia a window into NATO’s missile defense network and the F-35’s next-generation capabilities. Basically, as NATO is an alliance formed to counter Russia, letting Russia patch in would defeat the purpose and possibly blunt the military edge of the most expensive weapons system ever built.

So for now, it seems selling the F-35 to Turkey is out of the question, leaving another option for Turkey - Russia’s Su-57 “stealth” fighter jet.

“I don’t want to be too cavalier here,” said Deptula of the prospect of Turkey buying Russia’s jets, “but what a joke. You got to be kidding me.”

[SIZE=6]One or the other[/SIZE]
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5af3230c075e8d24008b46c6-1136-640.jpgRussian Embassy via Twitter

Deptula cited the poor reputation of Russian aircraft, its maintenance records, reliability, and their ability to network with NATO systems as reasons why buying Su-57s wouldn’t make sense. Deptula is not alone in disapproving of the Su-57, as India backed out of its cooperation in the project.

“If they bought the Su-57s and the S-400, those steps are incompatible with them buying the F-35. It’s going to be either or,” said Deptula. “And given the track record of Russian advanced aircraft, not a good move.”

But despite the unproven nature of Russia’s new fighter jet, a close review of recent photos of the plane by Business Insider revealed it’s a direct competitor for US stealth jets like the F-22 and F-35.

So Turkey getting Su-57s would, for military and diplomatic reasons, present a nightmare scenario for NATO’s security.

Heheheh, Turkey ilienda kitambo sana.

In fact they’re thinking of joining the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO)

I don’t understand why NATO hasn’t kicked Turkey out yet. They’re obviously Russia’s Trojan horse.

Ok… ruto stops mungin mungin

Ngoja @patco akuje hapa na kusema S- 400 ziko na microchip ya Murica and that they can’t work when against Murica’s fighters/bombers

:D:D:D Anakwuom in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…

Wacha tuu nianze countdown then I grab some popcorn. This one will be comedy gold.

Uzito pale Baltic sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdTV0DufnFc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oddu30CRKbE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s4sKAMgYsU

Also this…

[SIZE=7]Russia ‘to supply S-400 system to Qatar’ despite Saudi position[/SIZE]


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Russian lawmaker says Moscow’s plans ‘will not change’ by Riyadh’s opposition to the sale of surface-to-air missiles.
02 June 2018

The senior Russian politician has said Moscow still plans to supply an advanced aerial defense system to Qatar despite Saudi Arabia’s reported opposition.

Wewe utapatia @patco sleepless nights. Peleka yeye polepole :D:D

Anyway, the Saudis are hypocritical mofos. Si they are also buying the same Russian equipment.

These fokojembes still have the goat herders mindset. Ni pesa tuu ndiye wako nayo mingi.

When the oil runs out, Saudis will be back to herding goats in no time.

Funny how they say Sukhois are substandard…yet no one wants to Challenge them pale Syria. Actually after the su24 debacle, SU30sm used to enter Turkey airspace and No Enemy Fighter would show up, too sad Cus Turkey could not defend the Turkmen Rebels who were left exposed and India is out, Funny. India showed the F16 program middro finger and rushed back to papa bear to see to it T50 gets onto their mainland. That was no hard for russia to Convince cus It pitched the Su35 to Pakistan and an assortment of missiles…india had to cow and leave the F16 program… you see Rosoboronexport is not a moral police it is a business entity.

Haiya…:smiley: What version of English are you using? All regular words but sijanyita kitu

Nangoja mmalize kujiaibisha hapa ni hii mikebe mnaita state of the art.

Mnadhani baba ya Uhuru hakuwa anajua hii maneno vile aliambia baba ya raila atupe hio taka taka substandard ya Russia far away from Kenyan shores.

This quora fellow pretty much sums it up:

As machines considered they are quite reliable, but they require much more maintenance than today’s modern western fighters due to poor building quality, old-fashioned technology (such as riveted plates)

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d54e84fe4eb7df2dde37aab89f174b18
poor raw materials, inadequate metallurgy.

There is continual lack of everything and always, with a very high degree of cannibalism among wings.

The aircrafts are in miserable condition

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c1f0ece75f05d58e4ca8b351586563b8
But the biggest problem is the airbase staff and the crew.

And the de-icer.

Aaaaaaand…we have lift off!!

https://www.nasa.gov/images/content/151145main_liftoff.jpg

Karibu sana,

I’ve been counting down to the time when you’ll bless us with your exalted appearance.

@Budspencer ebu karibia kidogo. Your nemesis has arrived. :D:D

Obviously, NATO stalwarts must rubbish everything Russia. The amount of propaganda that follows every news item that paints Russia in a leading position is astronomical.

For those looking for evidence, just look at the recent Israeli aggression against Syria…over 80% of their missiles were intercepted by the SU400 while the rest hit very empty sites which had been deserted following superior counter espionage.

That’s business for Russia, fine by me. Ferk Izrahell, Power to Palestine, Ferk Western propaganda, Glory to Mother Russia, Death to America, Long Live Iran…last but not least #WakandaForever.

The Saudis imagine themselves to be a ME powerhouse but have been unable to bring tiny Qatar to its knees, just shows how pathetic they are.The day they run out of oil, the West will suddenly remember all the human rights abuses they commit and use it as pretext to bomb them to oblivion.

Sir, do you know that mig 31 “cold war era” interceptor is still the most feared interceptor currently more so in this era of networked communication on the battle field. Two of them can rotationally patrol syria airspace 24/7.

The Saudis can’t even handle the Houthis. Iran is the powerhouse of the middle east. If sanctions with the magnitude of those that were imposed on Iran are imposed on the Saudis, they would turn into another Yemen in less than 5 years

In essence,tiny Qatar will be able to shoot down all of Saudi Arabia’s US aircraft. Saudi usually gets American technology that is behind a couple of years or decades and in that area,even the S-300 can shoot down Saudi aircraft,leave alone the S-400.

You do realise that Russia is an ally of Israel right???
1 million Israeli Jews are of Russian descent and there are around 200,000 Russians(who were married to Jews as of 1991)who live in Israel.
Why do you think Russia is used as the go between for Israel and Syria??