The Lord's Prayer

Since I was an altar boy during my primary school, I always got confused by this part “and lead us not into temptation”. I wondered how can God lead me into temptations.

Luckily the Pope has allowed for some little editing to replace that phrase with “do not let us fall into temptation.”

Villagers what do you think?

https://www.christianpost.com/news/pope-francis-approves-change-to-the-lords-prayer-despite-opposition-its-deeply-problematic.html?&ampcf=1

Hio ilikua grammatical error ilibadilishwa sasa ni Let us not fall into temptation

At times He does give permission to the evil one see Job 2.

The ‘lead us not into temptations’ is said to be the original translation to English.

Could that phrase have come after Jesus in the wilderness for 40 days ?

That too, there is also King Ahab to whom God sent a lying spirit.

Do you think we should be saying ’ lead us not into temptations’?

:smiley: say…a low lyf fag
Satan is happy
Wewe na umbwa hamna tofauti

Yes, we should be honest before God no need to edit.

Pope ndio alibadilisha hio ombi. God doesn’t lead anyone to temptation we all have free will to choose right from wrong siwezi dunga mtu kisu niseme God made me do it

The essence of it is God can allow or disallow a temptation to reach you. Remember when David was mad with Abigael husband? .But then the bible says that God only allows temptations that he is sure we can overcome(For those who are born again)

As a Jew hatuamini hivyo

shida ya Translation

I’m not sure if it’s the grammar that is confusing or the logic.
If it’s the grammar then the word “not” changes direction of the entire sentence.
If it’s the logic part then us Christians believe God leads the way and that’s why we are successful in most of the things we do. He can momentarily choose to seat back and allow the devil to tempt us like he did to his most patient worshipper Job.

But according to Jesus who came up with the Prayer, His version is ‘lead us not in temptation’.

Was is because of what He faced in the wilderness?
Does the concept still apply with us still on earth?

So we have praying all along for Him to save us from His engineered temptations? That’s the part that confuses me alot.
I thought all along i thought temptations are the works of the evil one

As a layman[SIZE=1] important disclosure[/SIZE] my understanding is this. He leads only to goodness because that is his nature and is merciful. But he can withdraw his blessings/favours and allow the evil one to take charge. We saw him do it to Job. I think he is doing it to us when we see a wallet on the ground.
My thinking is he wants us to be strong that even when faced with temptation we will not tumble and fall.

That English is quite confusing. Shouldnt the correct word be expose not lead?

When you are led into something the chance of deviating is low but when exposed to something the chance of avoiding harm or damage is high because you can make a contrary decision.

Yes you’re right

We can be honest but He is still almighty.