The EU should forget about sanctions – they’re doing more harm than good

@Simiyu22, how’s that total embargo on Russian oil and gas coming? You dare sanction Mother Russia? Hamna akili nyinyi.
@ndume na @Akon City II, kujeni tusome

Far from compelling Russia to exit Ukraine, they are causing great suffering worldwide as food and energy prices soar

[I]Six million households in Britain face the possibility of morning and evening blackouts this winter to maintain sanctions against Russia, as do consumers across Europe. This is despite Europe pouring about $1bn a day into Russia to pay for the gas and oil it continues to consume. This seems crazy. Proposals by the EU to halt the payments are understandably being opposed by countries close to Russia and heavily dependent on its fossil fuels; Germany buys 12% of its oil and 35% of its gas from Russia, figures that are much higher in Hungary.

The EU in Brussels seems not to know what to do. A diplomatic compromise has been raised – exempting sanctions on imports via pipeline, which would spare Hungary and Germany – but no practical plan has been agreed. The real reason is that arguments over the sanctions weapon have been reduced to macho rhetoric. They are supposed to induce a foreign regime to change some unacceptable policy. This rarely if ever happens, and in Russia’s case it has blatantly failed. Apologists now claim that sanctions are merely a deterrent, intended to work in the medium to long term. As war in Ukraine shifts into a different gear, that term could be long indeed.[/I]

[I]Sanctions may have harmed Russia’s credit-worthiness, but the 70% surge in world gas prices alone has supercharged its balance of payments. Its current account trade surplus, according to its central bank, is now over three times the pre-invasion level. At the same time, sanctions are clearly hurting countries in western and central Europe who are imposing them.

It is absurd to expect Hungary to starve itself of energy and, as it says, “nuclear bomb” its economy, with no fixed objective or timetable in sight. Sanctions have an awful habit of being hard to dismantle. Worse is to come. Russia’s reaction to sanctions has been to threaten to cut off gas to Europe, further driving up prices to its advantage. It is already blockading the Black Sea ports, from which millions of tons of Ukrainian grain are normally shipped to the outside world. This blockade has seen cereal prices rise 48% on their 2019 base, devastating markets, particularly across Africa. This in turn has increased the value of Russia’s own massive grain exports. Russia has offered to lift the blockade if sanctions are lifted. Whether it means this is moot, but the west cannot be blind to the unintended consequence of its sanctions war.

Nato has been sensibly scrupulous in not escalating the war in Ukraine into a Europe-wide conflict. Sanctions know no such subtlety. Millions of innocent people across Europe and far from its shores will suffer as food and energy prices soar. Supply lines are disrupted. Trade links collapse. The victims are overwhelmingly the poor.

The objective – to compel Russia to withdraw its forces from Ukraine – has patently not been achieved. Military aid has been far more effective in that respect. But the harm done to the rest of Europe and the outside world is now glaring. The EU should stick to helping Ukraine’s war effort and withdraw economic sanctions against Russia. They are self-defeating and senselessly cruel.[/I]

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It’s like a boxing fight with EU being Mayweather. You can go flashing your punches in the early rounds, but he systematically wears you down with time. The problem is that Russia planned for a military battle. Putin did not plan for a economic one, where he is most vulnerable. S300 defense systems do not work in the the pockets of regular Russians.

You sure bruh? He systematically reduced Russia’s debt to GDP ratio to among the lowest in the world (about 17%, compared to over 100% for the US, 98% for France, 88% for Canada, and 85% for the UK). He stocked up on gold and forex to make Russia among the top 10 countries in terms of forex reserves (half of which the US/EU stole). He dramatically reduced Russia’s reliance on the dollar. He made Russia self reliant in terms of agriculture. He built new pipelines to Asia to diversify Russia’s energy market. This wasn’t him preparing for an economic battle?

Sijui kwa nini nacheka :D:D:D:D.

Those were just oil revenues being moved around. Ask yourself how his best friend Abramovic is caught with assets worth $10b outside the country. Together with other Russian oligarchs. Russia itself was caught with several hundred billion dollars in international markets. Yet he was prepared?

Okay. Moving oil revenues around isn’t a form of preparation :D:D:D

Because that’s what every country that runs a surplus does, you can’t just bring all that money into your economy or it will have negative effects. Not even Russia’s worst enemy could have predicted the extent of the current sanctions. Any other country would have collapsed by now, that’s a fact. Anyway, you seem more informed on this topic than established publications such as Forbes, Time, and The Economist.

I think you are trying to dilute realities. But we agree, Putin did not plan( at least adequately for a financial war) . Forbes magazine editors rely on Google info. I have repeatedly said this. Gone are the days ( before 2000s) when they were a credible magazine. Sanctions don’t collapse nations in a matter of weeks, but in years. Revisit me end of next year and we will see if Russia is the same as where it was in Jan 2022.

We don’t agree, this is you trying to misinterpret what I typed.

Okay :D:D:D

Okay

LOl ,the West unleashed all their cards early on and the initial expected shock to the Russian economy did not come to pass .Jana we had the EU bitch saying how the EU has to keep buying Russian oil and gas so that Russia doesn’t sell elsewhere :D:D:D:D:D

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Did you even read the other day that the EU froze only 27 billion dollars of the Russian Central Bank’s reserves and not the humongous figures that were being thrown around?

Whatever you read is heavily curated for Western audiences to make the politicians look tough. Optics tu

It is on record ,in peer reviewed papers that sanctions do not work .Quote any country that has collapsed because of sanctions

Wanaendelea aje uko Cuba?

First round of sanctions were kionjo. There’s more trade barriers coming.

Living longer than Americans the last time I checked

I’m trying to buy a 2021 Prado. Can I get one from there? Coz I can find them with your Americans, but cost is a little high.

neither can you get a 2021 Prado from Taiwan

Zimbabwe (1000000% inflation), Venezuela (2000% inflation). During the US invasion Iraq collapsed after 3 weeks due to 12 years of sanctions… Iran currency lost 300% of its value. Sanctions affect countries economy moreso its currency. If the US and IMF reject your currency it loses its value against the dollar and most countries reject it since they cant exchange it anywhere. Unless you resort to barter trade.

Yes I can from Taiwan.
https://www.everycar.com.tw/used-cars?s=Toyota&l=Taiwan&price-min=&price-max=&age=&mileage=&color=&sort=relevance

So why are these things not happening to Russia? Immediately after these “unprecedented sanctions” western officials reported with glee that the rouble had lost 30% of its value. Today the rouble is the world’s best performing currency, making strong gains against the dollar, euro, and pound. In fact, Russia’s central bank is now preventing it from making more gains because it will make Russia’s exports uncompetitive. So what is Russia doing differently, ama we should wait a few more years for the sanctions to really work?

:D:D:D:D Is this a joke or what? Ati buy Russian oil so that Putin doesn’t make profit elsewhere?? Enyewe huyo KGB midget is the Grandmaster of 3D Chess. Remember Germany and EU being puzzled when he ordered that they pay for his oil in Rubles? They couldn’t believe it until they started paying

Inflation in Russia is even lower than in some EU countries, and the Russian Central Bank reduced interest rates this week. The Ruble has not collapsed in fact stronger than it was pre-invasion.

This doesn’t make sense. The EU is buying Russian gas and oil in Rubles so which countries are these that are rejecting the currency? China ,India and others are doing currency swaps with Russia, and just yesterday, ,Egypt and Saudi Arabia agreed to buy Russian wheat in Rubles .

There’s something you Europhiles need to understand: Russia is the most resource rich country in the world and has commodities that the world needs whether you like the Russians or not .