The Bible On Family: The Uncomfortable Truth

Wives submit to your husbands. No Christian woman should seek to be at par with her husband (in authority). Just like Christ submitted to the father, despite their equality, so should wives submit to their husbands. This means that when there is a difference of opinion, the man’s voice reigns over the woman’s voice. Just like the Church submits to its head (Christ), so should a woman submit to her head (husband). That’s a spiritual hierarchy, it’s not debatable.

Remember, the man was made first and is the glory of God, but the woman is the glory of man. The man was made for God, the woman was made for man (it’s not right that man should be alone)

[COLOR=rgb(235, 107, 86)]1 Corinthians 11: 7-9
[COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)]7 A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image[COLOR=rgb(235, 107, 86)] and glory of God;[COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)] but woman is the[COLOR=rgb(235, 107, 86)] glory of man. [COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)]8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but[COLOR=rgb(235, 107, 86)] woman for man.

That’s the express text of the scripture. Man is by design made to be an authority over the woman. The design is so respected spiritually that the eyes of both Adam and Eve only opened after the man ate of the fruit. Only by man breaking the covenant was it truly broken. Sin entered by Adam, not Eve even though Eve was the one deceived by the devil.

Why?

Because the wife isn’t an authority over the man, her actions weren’t representative. Man’s action was representative of all his seed. That’s why sin entered through Adam, not Eve (Roman 5: 12-14).

Men love your wives as Christ loved the Church. This is the harder of the requirements. You see, the Church submits to Christ because Christ loved us first. In the same way, men ought to love their wives independent of flaws.

Love is humble.

The man has the obligation to be humble in authority. Since the man is representative, he is expected to make the first move. What do I mean?

The scriptural criteria is simple, Husband love your wife, wife submit to your husband.

If you love your wife, she’ll find it easier to submit. If you submit to your husband, the easier it is for him to love you. This is where the first move I mentioned earlier comes into play. What do we do when there is neither love nor submission? Since the man is the higher authority (much given much expected) the burden of righteousness is heavier upon him. He should love first in such a case (following the example of Christ) and the woman will submit (in the example of the Church).

If you think the requirement is hard on women, you don’t understand the requirement on men. The beauty of this is that the more she submits the more you’ll love her and the more you love her the more she submits.

The problem is that men and women have been taught to become enemies. You are one flesh. You must both abandon all societal teachings and modern beliefs as you leave your father and mother to become one. Only when you view each other as one will you fulfill the requirement. Act as opponents and you shame Christ.

You can’t hold feminist views and MGTOW views and expect to sustain a Christian marriage.

Who does this refer to?

Ephesians 5 21

Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtYh8zCVUSQ

The text is expressly talking to both men and women, but as a complement of the next verses, not an opposition. That’s to say it doesn’t change the next verses in any shape, manner, or form. It doesn’t challenge the hierarchy established in the next verses. On the contrary, it lays the foundation.

As I said, men should exercise authority in humility. The command to love your wife has a component of humility because love is not proud (I cor 13). It, however, doesn’t suggest that husbands and wives are equal in authority or position… that would contradict the next verses.

What the text is expressly adamant is that husbands and wives aren’t equal authorities. The husband is the head of the woman.

2 hours aki? Just give me the gist of it. I too could embed a few hours of video, but that wouldn’t be very constructive now would it?

Did you look at this video? It mocks the faith and Christ and God! It is a mockery of the faith, calls God stupid. Says Eve had sex with the devil all in the first 15 minutes.

@TrumanCapote is this representative of your religious beliefs?

I have not listened but I will tomorrow.

My problem with this submission thing is that it’s so legastic. How come nobody has to keep reminding me to submit to Jesus. The more you harp on about some things the more you incite resistance. Paul said follow me as I follow Christ. Why do we need to be told all the time to submit. We have no problem submitting to Christ even to church leaders so is there a problem when it comes to submitting to husbands ama why the excessive emphasis?

Every Sunday is a sermon on submission to Christ. Every time you’re told to love your neighbor or pursue peace is a reminder to submit to Christ. I don’t get why you’d suggest you’re not reminded to submit to Christ.

Submitting to your husband is an act of submission to Christ because you can’t submit to Christ and disobey His word. The modern-day woman has embraced feminist ideology that’s incompatible with the text of scripture. That’s why the idea of submission is so problematic. Modern-day men have embraced a form of authority that’s independent of love. The text isn’ legalistic, it’s truthful. You’ll be fulfilled as a woman when you submit to your husband. He’ll be fulfilled when he loves you.

You can no more suggest that the man isn’t the head of the woman than you can suggest Christ isn’t the head of the Church. You’ll never submit to God until you submit,it to your husband. He’ll never love God until he learns to love you.

I have not said anything about the man not being the head of the house. I’m just saying that this submission is even given precedent over submission to Christ. Why? Isn’t that a form of idolatry? Btw go watch father daughter talk it’s very good.

They are not independent. It’s not a submission for husband vs submission for Christ. You aren’t submitted to Christ if you aren’t submitted to your husband.

I don’t agree that submission for husband is given precedence over submission for Christ. I am yet to see evidence for that in all the Churches I’ve attended. If anything, it’s avoided in our modern cultures. That aside, I believe this topic should be re-introduced and emphasized because Christian homes are breaking at alarming rates because we’ve abandoned the scriptural framework.

I’ll give a look at the father-daughter videos in a few.

Beautifully said. To love God is to obey His commandments which aren’t burdensome (1st John 5:3). I can only add that submission is not an uncomfortable truth. It’s simply the truth. God’s elect doesn’t argue with the Word. Every word in the Bible is “Amen.” Even if I may not fully understand it, I just say “let it be so” and persevere to live that life. I like how you summed it up: “You’ll never submit to God until you submit to your husband.”

It’s the secret to a long and fulfilling marriage. What I’ve found most troubling is the feminist ideology of shared authority and interchangeable roles. It is totally incompatible with scripture. God knows our hearts, we’ll be wise to hear Him out. The hardest thing for a man to do is to love a proud uppity woman. The hardest thing for a woman to do is to submit to an unloving man.

This little nugget is the secret to a long happy marriage.

Does this command apply for husbands who are non believers? And please do not get worked up. I can’t relate.

What gives the impression that I’m getting worked up? I am really not.

On the non-believing husband, most definitely yes. In such a circumstance, you have the greater burden of righteousness because more has been given to you (you are saved). You make the first move and submit to the man, his love will follow. He has to see the light of Christ in you. You are the salt of the world, add taste to the man.

Considering you’re probably his closet example of what a Christian is, I dare say you should submit more than you would for a believer—because you’re not just after a good marriage, you’re out to win his very soul.

OK. This topic is complicated and it needs alot of understanding to get it. I don’t think I understand it very well. I will look it up.

Nonsense and irrelevant to me as an African pure negro

This is so true. Many families are breaking today because of these two things.

The only problem that I have with the she devil aka Detective Sandy Vagina @TrumanCapote is the lady will basically quote any source to support her claims regardless of whether the source goes against the primary source or is of very shitty quality. Also, she will fight vicariously against anything pitting a woman against a man, even if its in the bible. Now look she’s quoting total nonsense and hogwash that goes against her faith. That’s a sign of mental retardation

I am just wondering isn’t submission a curse from Garden of Eden @Mzichi