Swali tu!!!!

[Soprano]

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[ranny]

A great question.

[Phylgee]

…not only are the 6M people big-mouthed but they are violent too…they know how to riot and they have a leader who knows how to incite them…that should somehow answer the question.

[gashwin]

@Phylgee

…not only are the 6M people big-mouthed but they are violent too…they know how to riot and they have a leader who knows how to incite them…that should somehow answer the question.

You nailed it.

[Steelo]

The parallels between certain Kiuks attitudes towards Luos and that of many whites towards blacks in the U.S. is almost amazing but history has already shown, everything in its time.

[Amused]

@Phylgee

…not only are the 6M people big-mouthed but they are violent too…they know how to riot and they have a leader who knows how to incite them…that should somehow answer the question.

Interesting. That’s like saying they are all 6’5" with six packs.

Chihuahuas look like miniature dogs but you’ve never seen a peskier or more annoying dog in your life. You can kick that midget dog the length of a soccer field. But what’s the point?

In one Kenyan language, they say “njamba ti ikere”.

[Amused]

@Steelo

The parallels between certain Kiuks attitudes towards Luos and that of many whites towards blacks in the U.S. is almost amazing but history has already shown, everything in its time.

You’ve got it backwards buddy.

[Steelo]

@Amused

You’ve got it backwards buddy.

Yesterday, I read somewhere that “Sympathy in human beings is largely driven by how close one is to being the oppressor (aggressor) or the Oppressed(victim)” and for that reason, I doubt you’ll be able to see things from my perspective today but I can be patient. Everything in its time.

[Claire]

@Soprano

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…this reminds us:
“Your Liberty to Swing Your Fist Ends Just Where My Nose Begins”.

[Amused]

@Steelo

Yesterday, I read somewhere that “Sympathy in human beings is largely driven by how close one is to being the oppressor (aggressor) or the Oppressed(victim)” and for that reason, I doubt you’ll be able to see things from my perspective today but I can be patient. Everything in its time.

Ha! If I am not wrong, you’re referring to the Karpman drama triangle. It is used in transactional analysis and psychotherapy. The third piece which you haven’t mentioned is the “rescuer”. Look at it from that perspective.

[xuma]

While the majority have had their way, the minority should have their say but in a civilised manner by not irking the majority.

[ranny]

@Steelo

Yesterday, I read somewhere that “Sympathy in human beings is largely driven by how close one is to being the oppressor (aggressor) or the Oppressed(victim)” and for that reason, I doubt you’ll be able to see things from my perspective today but I can be patient. Everything in its time.

let me ask you, who is the oppresser and who is the victim? is it oppressive not to vote for raila? is it ok to loot and destroy other people’s properties just because someone was defeated (no one but the very stupid who think raila is an oracle believes the riggin fantasy)? lets look at conduct during this elections. I never heard even once UhuRuto abusing or threatening any community. they might have called raila all kinds of things but never a whole community. now lets look at the other side. their whole campaign was based on inciting antiGEMA sentiments. From telling laikipians and Maasai about foreigners in their land, to the ka opportunist’s ‘lie low like envelop’ gaffe, Wetangulas threatened freeze on development projects in central etc. thanks God their divisive politics failed to work outside their tribal bases. infact, i would compare the nasa attitude to that of ku klax klan in the US

[Steelo]

@ranny

let me ask you, who is the oppresser and who is the victim? is it oppressive not to vote for raila? is it ok to loot and destroy other people’s properties just because someone was defeated (no one but the very stupid who think raila is an oracle believes the riggin fantasy)? lets look at conduct during this elections. I never heard even once UhuRuto abusing or threatening any community. they might have called raila all kinds of things but never a whole community. now lets look at the other side. their whole campaign was based on inciting antiGEMA sentiments. From telling laikipians and Maasai about foreigners in their land, to the ka opportunist’s ‘lie low like envelop’ gaffe, Wetangulas threatened freeze on development projects in central etc. thanks God their divisive politics failed to work outside their tribal bases. infact, i would compare the nasa attitude to that of ku klax klan in the US

Your inability to see past Nasa and Raila is the excuse you’re using to deny that their supporters were treated unfairly by the cops. I guess the baby who got beaten to death was also out there looting and destroying. You’ll notice my previous statement doesn’t talk about the Nasa or Raila. It’s one thing for people to have an issue with an election, it’s another for them to cause protest/cause chaos (depending on how you see it) but when the body with the mandate of protecting citizens decides to blindly target the entire community associated with the said protesters right down to their children and KILL THEM, in the presence of less lethal alternatives, THAT IS A STEP TOO FAR! Anyone with half a brain knows the police went too far and your inability to admit that is because you think saying so means you support Nasa or Raila.
But it’s okay, everything in its time. Hata sisi jana wasomali walitukumbusha how we said nothing as they were being profiled and harassed and called terrorists en masse. Tukaambiwa it’s our turn now. So hata mimi I’ll do my best to let go of my bitterness in recognition of the fact that I’ve kept silent in the past when I should have spoken. Politics is one issue, protesting is another, looting another and killing innocent people because ‘their people’ are on the ‘wrong’ side of the law is another. I hope you’ll learn to separate these issues before the cops break down your door and beat your kids to death because your brother or cousin was out on the street.

[ranny]

@Steelo

Your inability to see past Nasa and Raila is the excuse you’re using to deny that their supporters were treated unfairly by the cops. I guess the baby who got beaten to death was also out there looting and destroying. You’ll notice my previous statement doesn’t talk about the Nasa or Raila. It’s one thing for people to have an issue with an election, it’s another for them to cause protest/cause chaos (depending on how you see it) but when the body with the mandate of protecting citizens decides to blindly target the entire community associated with the said protesters right down to their children and KILL THEM, in the presence of less lethal alternatives, THAT IS A STEP TOO FAR! Anyone with half a brain knows the police went too far and your inability to admit that is because you think saying so means you support Nasa or Raila.
But it’s okay, everything in its time. Hata sisi jana wasomali walitukumbusha how we said nothing as they were being profiled and harassed and called terrorists en masse. Tukaambiwa it’s our turn now. So hata mimi I’ll do my best to let go of my bitterness in recognition of the fact that I’ve kept silent in the past when I should have spoken. Politics is one issue, protesting is another, looting another and killing innocent people because ‘their people’ are on the ‘wrong’ side of the law is another. I hope you’ll learn to separate these issues before the cops break down your door and beat your kids to death because your brother or cousin was out on the street.

the fact remains that those 3 demagogues who leads nasa used antiGEMA sentiments to excite their base and this worked. i didnt see a single nasarite protesting this, this is what excited them. that tells me all i need to know. i have always taken issue with how nasarites come about with selfrighteous while they are the guilty party.

[Steelo]

@ranny

the fact remains that those 3 demagogues who leads nasa used antiGEMA sentiments to excite their base and this worked. i didnt see a single nasarite protesting this, this is what excited them. that tells me all i need to know. i have always taken issue with how nasarites come about with selfrighteous while they are the guilty party.

Like most Kenyans, you keep arguing the politics to shield yourself from having to deal with the other truth, the truth which says that despite your negative feelings towards them, the people on the other side of the divide may have been mistreated. But that’s okay too.