Sins of our Fathers

My grandfather once told me about curses (kilumi), that go from generation to generation. He gave me instances of families in gicagi that were known to have a hex on them. One that I recall was of a family whose 10+ kids had not lived to see 50. The sons had fought their mother for a long time on issues relating to inheritance after their father died. They owned a large tract of land and after the man of the house died, the sons sold off piece by piece and by the end they didn’t even have anywhere to bury their kin. Stories of alcoholism, grandkids fighting their grandmother and parents were rife in that home. The villagers all say that the old man had gone against a blood oath and a curse had befallen his family.

In today’s context, some of these political class guys have terrible family issues, probably as a result of the theft and atrocities that they have committed. Without mentioning any names as we have all read the news. There’s drug abuse, their children passing away before their time, ill health, court cases, family wrangles etc. Kwa ufupi, these guys do not have a peaceful existence. This struggles follow them to the grave, Kihika and Kirima style.

Always remember your actions will determine your fate.

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Believing that kind of shit makes you a bottom feeder among the evolved primates.

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As much as curses exist, I don’t believe in them in this context you put through because everyone suffers consequences of their actions .
You can’t inherit a curse, a bit absurd I think.
What I know if you raise your kids right, then you don’t end up having such issues.

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It’s easy to blame the dead for your misfortunes.

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You mix two very different issues here. The first is in the depositing of a curse on errant descendants and the second is the visiting of the sins of the fathers upon the children.

The first is natural and expected, even just. The other is contrary to the principles of moral justice, and probably never happens.

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how does this even get determined

It is in the bible too… The sins of the father will be passed to the sons for 4 generations. If you steal money, lets say from the gava, you have committed murder because a woman will die in Nyanza during child birth or from malaria because hospitals do not have facilities. A family in Turkana will die from hunger because the gava does not have money to buy food. @kah tony… it is true what you ahve written. Just look around and see this so called tenderpreneurs and politicians and look at how their kids are ferked up.

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When I used to go to church pastors used to pray to God asking him break generational curses then you look at their families you wonder those prayers never get answered since clearing theological college 2 decades ago.

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Only genes are hereditary.

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This is stupid.

If your God already knew that his creation will sin in a special way to warrant innocent kids and grand kids to suffer for it, what kind of a sadistic creature is he not to prevent it?

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Kuna former Minister alikuwa anakamua girlfriend ya mtoto wake, the son came to know of it and ended up committing suicide, how does he even sleep at night? Will he ever have peace, here and hereafter?

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There is another tenderpreneur goon. He used to do shady deals then he got married. All his 3 kids are autistic. The kids have the best toys money can buy. But he is a bitter man when he sees the kids of poor people running around and having a good time and his kids do not have that joy. He says if he could turn back the hands of time he would have done clean deals and worked hard.

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Curse is real and we must avoid it. But it’s wrong to curse anybody

God gave humans something called free will. You can do good or evil. You do evil then actions have consequences.

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What baffles us, we usually attribute to curses. A good example is AIDS…which was and still is attributed to a curse in Luoland-chira, thus hindering its treatment.
If you exhume the bodies of those people who allegedly died of Curses, you’ll realise the cause was either unknown at the time of their demise or treatment was not sought since it was “obvious” it was a curse and the curser was long dead.

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I also here that everyone has a pre-determined path of life, now doesn’t that conflict with the concept of freewill?

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It is not pre determined… your life is in your hands you decide how your life will be.

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why do people say its all “God’s plan?” meaning your destiny is not in your hands?

One thing I have come to learn is that ill gotten wealth is spend carelessly, this sometimes spoils the kids, the beneficiary did not sweat for the money and therefore does not feel anything spending it. In the end the kids hafundishwi kutafuta.

This combined with the curses za wale watu umeibia can really mess your family. I know of a politician mwenye aliharibu kijana yake utotoni and when the son grew ukawa a big embarrassment to the family to a level they could not see eye to eye. Kuna time the father met the son on the road, and he wanted to run over him Na gari amuuwe to end the embarrassment. One night jamaa na ulevi yake, banki and all sorts of drugs attempted to rape his mother, kesho yake when he was sober akaambiwa what happened last night, akichukua tu kamba pole pooole Na akaenda shambani akajinyonga. Chungeni vile mnalea watoto.

Its what people say. But the truth is he gave man ‘free will to choose either to do good and live or to go the evil way and perish’. Hio najua iko kwa bible