Ni kubaya. Kimeumana. Hacheki na watoto tena.

[patco]

:D:D:D

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Passengers aboard a Madaraka Express train in Nairobi on November 3, 2018. Children will now be required to pay full fare. PHOTO | FILE | NATION MEDIA GROUP
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[SIZE=6]Kenya Railways raises fare for children on Madaraka Express[/SIZE]

By ANITA CHEPKOECH
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IN SUMMARY
[ul]
[li]Acting managing director Philip Mainga said the company had proposed a review to remove the government subsidy.[/li][li]Requests for a refund will be accepted 48 and 72 hours before the time of travel for individuals and groups, respectively.[/li][/ul]
Kenya Railways on Friday doubled fares for children using standard gauge railway (SGR) Madaraka Express trains.

The review, effective June 1, is part of a plan to raise more revenue to repay a multibillion-shilling Chinese debt incurred in building the railway.

Minors between the age of three and 11 have been paying Sh1,500 for first-class tickets and Sh500 for economy. The new fares will be Sh3,000 and Sh1,000 respectively. :D:D:eek:

“Minors above three years shall (now) pay full fares,” read a company notice.

In a statement titled “Improvement of the Madaraka Express Passenger Service”, the corporation also announced that passengers will be allowed to book their preferred seats on the train online, just like with airlines. The period for advance booking was also extended from 30 to 60 days.

CONDITIONS

The management also said minors will be required to present their parents’ or guardians’ identity cards during booking and a copy of the document when travelling alone.
“In addition to M-Pesa, passengers can now pay for the ticket using credit/debit cards for online booking. Each passenger will be allowed only two pieces of luggage, not exceeding 30 kilogrammes and 1.6 metres in height and length,” said the management.

In January, Mr Philip Mainga, the acting Kenya Railways managing director, told the
Nation that the company had proposed a review to remove the government subsidy.
“We are looking at a model where charges will be based on the seat irrespective of the traveller’s age,” he said.

In the new rules, passengers travelling with invalid or no tickets will be fined full fare and an extra 30 per cent penalty. :D:D

REFUNDS
Requests for a refund will be accepted 48 and 72 hours before the time of travel for individuals and groups, respectively.
People seeking refunds will lose 30 per cent of the ticket price. Refunds can be obtained via M-Pesa if it was the mode used to pay.
Rescheduling will be allowed between 48 to 72 hours before travel time and will attract a 10 per cent fine of the ticket price. A ticket can be rescheduled only once.

In 2018, the firm raised cargo charges by up to 79 per cent while the promotional Sh700 fare for adults ended last May.

[hakimoto]

Viongozi wa kesho??

[patco]

Away from paying the China man…

Many moons ago I once heard the Rift Valley spokesman say that in the West, train tickets are very expensive!!:D:D:D

Na akaongeza ati in some instances they are more expensive than airline tickets!! :D:D:D

Nikajua, ooo kumbe huwa mnajua hio story?! Kumbe mmetembea majuu na mnajua?! Na bado mnajenga SGR?! So in future what miracle will Gathecha use to keep his tickets cheap??!

Don’t forget that budget airlines keep increasing worldwide. People want FAST and AFFORDABLE. Not a train that takes 5 or 6 hours to Mombasa.

[magazine]

@patco

:D:D:D

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Passengers aboard a Madaraka Express train in Nairobi on November 3, 2018. Children will now be required to pay full fare. PHOTO | FILE | NATION MEDIA GROUP
NEWS

[SIZE=6]Kenya Railways raises fare for children on Madaraka Express[/SIZE]

By ANITA CHEPKOECH
More by this Author

IN SUMMARY
[ul]
[li]Acting managing director Philip Mainga said the company had proposed a review to remove the government subsidy.[/li][li]Requests for a refund will be accepted 48 and 72 hours before the time of travel for individuals and groups, respectively.[/li][/ul]
Kenya Railways on Friday doubled fares for children using standard gauge railway (SGR) Madaraka Express trains.

The review, effective June 1, is part of a plan to raise more revenue to repay a multibillion-shilling Chinese debt incurred in building the railway.

Minors between the age of three and 11 have been paying Sh1,500 for first-class tickets and Sh500 for economy. The new fares will be Sh3,000 and Sh1,000 respectively. :D:D:eek:

“Minors above three years shall (now) pay full fares,” read a company notice.

In a statement titled “Improvement of the Madaraka Express Passenger Service”, the corporation also announced that passengers will be allowed to book their preferred seats on the train online, just like with airlines. The period for advance booking was also extended from 30 to 60 days.

CONDITIONS

The management also said minors will be required to present their parents’ or guardians’ identity cards during booking and a copy of the document when travelling alone.
“In addition to M-Pesa, passengers can now pay for the ticket using credit/debit cards for online booking. Each passenger will be allowed only two pieces of luggage, not exceeding 30 kilogrammes and 1.6 metres in height and length,” said the management.

In January, Mr Philip Mainga, the acting Kenya Railways managing director, told the
Nation that the company had proposed a review to remove the government subsidy.
“We are looking at a model where charges will be based on the seat irrespective of the traveller’s age,” he said.

In the new rules, passengers travelling with invalid or no tickets will be fined full fare and an extra 30 per cent penalty. :D:D

REFUNDS
Requests for a refund will be accepted 48 and 72 hours before the time of travel for individuals and groups, respectively.
People seeking refunds will lose 30 per cent of the ticket price. Refunds can be obtained via M-Pesa if it was the mode used to pay.
Rescheduling will be allowed between 48 to 72 hours before travel time and will attract a 10 per cent fine of the ticket price. A ticket can be rescheduled only once.

In 2018, the firm raised cargo charges by up to 79 per cent while the promotional Sh700 fare for adults ended last May.

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deni lazima ilipwe hata hiyo 1.5% ya housing Will be channeled there

[Brikicho_Bantureh]

kenya hakuna caring government…i say this word bitterly after queuing for hours nikingoja huduma chieth which is just a another white elephant in waiting

[patco]

Niliambia the pump attendant @GERALD9949 that running a railway has never been cheap. And that is common sense, common knowledge.

Running a bus company is VERY expensive… an airline is EXTREMELY expensive but running a RAILWAY line is INSANELY expensive.

These are facts. You can fold up an airline if you fail sell your aeroplanes and just run away. Utauzia nani train stations, trains, elevations, tunnels etc etc? Hio yote ni waste. Tens of thousands of acres are needed for a railway line. It fails, most of it ni waste.

Even the number of people employed to run a railway line is crazy. Operating a railway line is expensive in every department.

Right now we are paying the Chinese debt, we have not started paying for repairs. The SGR is still new. Wacha ianze tumashida. Wait for the workers to form a Union and start asking for better pay. Ndio mtajua how much it costs to run a railway company.

After kuambia pump attendant hivo akaongea smooth English hapo, waxing lyrical, ile kizungu yao… SGR was planned sijui in 2006. There is a Railway Levy. Gathecha is very well planned…

Immediately after, fuel taxes were raised to pay for SGR. Kuuliza mjamaa, mjamaa akani block…:D:D:D:D

Ati nauliza swali ngumu, na muumiza roho.

His argument was that the new fuel taxes are not meant for SGR but to repay an old Kibaki govt. loan.

And yet the Equity bank CEO, Mr. Mwangi, who is the head of Vision 2030 said then that the new fuel taxes are going direct to repay SGR!!

With a few ageing planes for example you could transport the same number of people on SGR via budget flights to Mombasa in 30 to 45 minutes daily. Even a nice big bus on a good highway is inevitably cheaper than rail.

And it is in deed very true when the Rift Valley spokesman says that in the West an airline ticket eventually became 3 times cheaper than a railway ticket :

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6452969/Getting-train-THREE-times-expensive-flying.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/last-minute-flights-to-europe-cheaper-than-some-uk-train-fares/

[WuTang]

@patco

Niliambia the pump attendant @GERALD9949 that running a railway has never been cheap. And that is common sense, common knowledge.

Running a bus company is VERY expensive… an airline is EXTREMELY expensive but running a RAILWAY line is INSANELY expensive.

These are facts. You can fold up an airline if you fail sell your aeroplanes and just run away. Utauzia nani train stations, trains, elevations, tunnels etc etc? Hio yote ni waste. Tens of thousands of acres are needed for a railway line. It fails, most of it ni waste.

Even the number of people employed to run a railway line is crazy. Operating a railway line is expensive in every department.

Right now we are paying the Chinese debt, we have not started paying for repairs. The SGR is still new. Wacha ianze tumashida. Wait for the workers to form a Union and start asking for better pay. Ndio mtajua how much it costs to run a railway company.

After kuambia pump attendant hivo akaongea smooth English hapo, waxing lyrical, ile kizungu yao… SGR was planned sijui in 2006. There is a Railway Levy. Gathecha is very well planned…

Immediately after, fuel taxes were raised to pay for SGR. Kuuliza mjamaa, mjamaa akani block…:D:D:D:D

Ati nauliza swali ngumu, na muumiza roho.

His argument was that the new fuel taxes are not meant for SGR but to repay an old Kibaki govt. loan.

And yet the Equity bank CEO, Mr. Mwangi, who is the head of Vision 2030 said then that the new fuel taxes are going direct to repay SGR!!

With a few ageing planes for example you could transport the same number of people on SGR via budget flights to Mombasa in 30 to 45 minutes daily. Even a nice big bus on a good highway is inevitably cheaper than rail.

And it is in deed very true when the Rift Valley spokesman says that in the West an airline ticket eventually became 3 times cheaper than a railway ticket :

Getting the train is THREE times more expensive than flying | Daily Mail Online

The UK rail fares that are more expensive than a flight to Europe

:D:D:D:D:D:D. Unakuanga mchokozi.

[emali]

I would rather mtoto wangu alipishwe hadi 5k lakini asafiri kwa usalama na comfortably kuliko asafiri kwa hizo coffins on wheels zimejaa mombasa Road

[patco]

@WuTang

:D:D:D:D:D:D. Unakuanga mchokozi.

:D:D:D Sio uchokozi. Nakumbuka jubilant old arguments.

Walisema there is a Railway Levy to cater for everything… na mjamaa ana raise ticket prices every few months.

When you build something it should be in a position to pay for itself comfortably. Ngoja uskie ame raise fare tena and more taxes.

[patco]

@emali

I would rather mtoto wangu alipishwe hadi 5k lakini asafiri kwa usalama na comfortably kuliko asafiri kwa hizo coffins on wheels zimejaa mombasa Road

Hukuskia ya Ethiopia ilianguka juzi, na ni mpya? Hujaskia vile Chinaman anaficha ndio incident zisijulikane. But I hope nothing bad happens juu hapa ni hundreds of souls…

But I get where you are coming from. More should be done as concerns roads. But who will do it?

[emali]

@patco

But who will do it?

shida tuko nayo kubwa nikuwa tangu handcheque kenya haina opposition… no one to check the government… sukuma lazima tuchunishwe

[Ubongo]

Nothing is free and cheap, Wanjiku still told to give space for the few. But why don’t they add the trains and operate at night if demand is high

[patco]

@Ubongo

Nothing is free and cheap, Wanjiku still told to give space for the few. But why don’t they add the trains and operate at night if demand is high

Saa unajua hii kitu iko so top secret you can’t even know the numbers. Even the newspaper guys glean info. They scrap for info that is not straight forward. You can’t tell the demand.

How are the stations in between Mombasa and Nairobi doing?

[patco]

@emali

shida tuko nayo kubwa nikuwa tangu handcheque kenya haina opposition… no one to check the government… sukuma lazima tuchunishwe

Vitu zingine sio impossible. For instance a national bus with roll cages and sufficient safety features. Sio hizi Isuzu zinararuka mabati or the small toyota tin cans. Just regulate. Michuki enforced seat belts.

And since airlines are taboo in Kenya what other options were available apart from the very compulsory SGR?

Roads. But why waste $300 billion on the new Bechtel road from Mombasa to Nairobi. Why not expand the current highway?!

It would’ve been cheaper than the SGR and with 3 or 4 lanes both ways, much much safer than the current highway. Unakanyaga 150 kph kutoka Nairobi hadi Mombasa unafika na 3 and a half hours. Yule mjaluo wa BMW labda 2 hours. Na ingejilipa haraka. Meria Mata afungiwe lane yake na huko mwisho. Truck ikiharibika akae pekee yake na huko sio kuua walevi usiku.

And for ordinary raiya, chapisha BRT hapo kati kati hadi Coast. Not that it’s a must. And you won’t even need toll stations. The fuel consumed is sufficient to pay for repairs.

[kush_yule_mnono]

@patco

Vitu zingine sio impossible. For instance a national bus with roll cages and sufficient safety features. Sio hizi Isuzu zinararuka mabati or the small toyota tin cans. Just regulate. Michuki enforced seat belts.

And since airlines are taboo in Kenya what other options were available apart from the very compulsory SGR?

Roads. But why waste $300 billion on the new Bechtel road from Mombasa to Nairobi. Why not expand the current highway?!

It would’ve been cheaper than the SGR and with 3 or 4 lanes both ways, much much safer than the current highway. Unakanyaga 150 kph kutoka Nairobi hadi Mombasa unafika na 3 and a half hours. Yule mjaluo wa BMW labda 2 hours. Na ingejilipa haraka. Meria Mata afungiwe lane yake na huko mwisho. Truck ikiharibika akae pekee yake na huko sio kuua walevi usiku.

And for ordinary raiya, chapisha BRT hapo kati kati hadi Coast. Not that it’s a must. And you won’t even need toll stations. The fuel consumed is sufficient to pay for repairs.

Mujamaa naona andas imekurarukia … though unabinja ma points hapo

[Nyamgondho]

ukitaka kujua how diificult it is to manage a railway system enda usome UK’s experience on the same. Privatization, nationalization, fares, inefficiency and tube strikes. But speed-rails & trains of japan tell a different story because they have a strong appeal. But sisi hatuna speed trains just a slow locomotive which looks like it’s straight from the 80’s.

[Motokubwa]

@patco

Vitu zingine sio impossible. For instance a national bus with roll cages and sufficient safety features. Sio hizi Isuzu zinararuka mabati or the small toyota tin cans. Just regulate. Michuki enforced seat belts.

And since airlines are taboo in Kenya what other options were available apart from the very compulsory SGR?

Roads. But why waste $300 billion on the new Bechtel road from Mombasa to Nairobi. Why not expand the current highway?!

It would’ve been cheaper than the SGR and with 3 or 4 lanes both ways, much much safer than the current highway. Unakanyaga 150 kph kutoka Nairobi hadi Mombasa unafika na 3 and a half hours. Yule mjaluo wa BMW labda 2 hours. Na ingejilipa haraka. Meria Mata afungiwe lane yake na huko mwisho. Truck ikiharibika akae pekee yake na huko sio kuua walevi usiku.

And for ordinary raiya, chapisha BRT hapo kati kati hadi Coast. Not that it’s a must. And you won’t even need toll stations. The fuel consumed is sufficient to pay for repairs.

purpose ya sgr ni kubeba mizigo ,are we together Mr toffee?

[patco]

@Motokubwa

purpose ya sgr ni kubeba mizigo ,are we together Mr toffee?

:D:D:D Hio argument hunichekesha sana, juu ni jokes.

Mizigo gani? To where?

[Gatua_ng_ongo]

@Brikicho Bantureh

kenya hakuna caring government…i say this word bitterly after queuing for hours nikingoja huduma chieth which is just a another white elephant in waiting

Hujuma number

[eddy_mahelo]

After traveling to the coast in bus and then SGR, hata train ikifika 1800 i will pay. bus is shit for that long journey