It helps when the public actively oppose police misconduct:
Kenyans need to learn that you canāt refuse to be arrested! Like it or not, the law gives the cops benefit of the doubt on whether to arrest someone. If there is no probable cause, deal with it separately. What if people start refusing to be arrested because they hail from such and such tribe?
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Kassin
I vehemently disagree.
Kenyan cops have a tendency to compensate for their poor command of civic responsibility and communication skills with brutality. Hebu try one day to reason with a traffic cop who is trying to forcibly enter your vehicle by citing relevant areas of the law and traffic codes that govern their conduct. Some respond with a slap.
In the case above, the guy with the AK47 is obviously unaware of the excesses he is committing in his handling of the matter. His partner realizes in time that there are cameras and also that the subject of their attentions is causing them to embarrass themeselves.
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That fellow clearly resisted arrest, and an officer is supposed to do everything within his powers to subdue and arrest him. And just because the officers were unable to detain him, doesnāt mean heās off the hookā¦
And anyway, the video isnāt clear on who (the cops or the guy) was breaking the law hereā¦
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kazo,
You can justify that it is Kenya or it is in the rural areas. It really does not matter. The basic law of the land is that cops carry the authority to arrest anyone they think has committed or is likely to commit (probable cause) a crime.
Now, does that mean that the cops are always right? Hell no! I would not dare say that. In fact, it might be that they guy refused to part with enough. Great, as a society though, we cannot ask cops to justify themselves or face mob justice. We have to find a way that maintains order but arrests (no pun intended) abuse of authority. Given especially how temps are going to be chemshwad in a few months, you donāt want Kenyans to think they can square off with the police. Kwanza I really doubt whether these cops go through any kind of rigorous psychological testing. And even if they did, their motivation could be something not obvious to bwana casual observer. you get the pointā¦
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Resisting arrest utaumia bure and itās still criminal.
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Nimeskia dim eye hapo ikisema āhakuna bwana!ā Away from that, i really donāt understand why members of the public decide that whoever is being arrested is innocent. Try that in Trump land and you get your ass shot. Infact, cops in US will shoot you even if youāre not resisting (if youāre black)
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In US ata ukiskuma karao kidogo tu, wanaongeza charge ya assaulting an officer. A five minute scuffle might result in five separate charges.
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This is not Americaā¦this is Africa, more specifically Kenya. You get arrested for everything, a broken window, walking on flower beds, forgetting your ID card, everythingā¦that does not mean the police officer cannot excersize his power to discern which warrants an arrest or which you just inform a person on their mistakes and move on.
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What kind of training do our cops undergo? Do they just watch Rambo movies before they are released to the public? I donāt understand how two armed, (supposedly trained) cops unable to arrest one unarmed man.
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Wanafaa watoe ile part ya āServiceā warudishe āForceā.
Guys should start suing for wrongful detention, trumped up charges and manhandling by cops. that is the only way police reforms will happen.
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Kassin, do you see how many contradictions there are in your second insha??
Stop. Are you saying that a Police Officer cannot board a private vehicle? What law prevents them from doing that?
Ati kumsukuma? Kumguza tu, ni assault. Thatās the law, even in Kenya. Hata kama people rarely get prosecuted for it.
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Its simple, we have so many Waiganjos around and the Kenyan law clearly stipulates that a police officer should not arrest you without identifying himself and stating the reason for arresting youā¦Chapter 4 of the current constitution spells out this very clearly contrary to which your rights are being violated
As for your question @dingo_wa_ingoo ā¦a policeman entering your vehicle amounts to invasion of privacy and intimidation, section 117 (3) of traffic Act requires the officer to only serve you with a police notification form carrying charge. Bt then again this is Kenya na wakenya we are known to be ignorant.
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That is exactly what American cops will arrest you forā¦ Watch more of their videos on Youtubeā¦
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You see it working in Kenya? Well, for starters, it doesnāt work in the āLand of the suers and sueeesā, you simply donāt wanna give a cop (any) a reason to pursue a case on you, namely, resisting arrest, assaulting a police officer, public incitement, hizo zingine sita nimesahauā¦
Determination my frenā¦siendi na siendiā¦
nope, you get a warning or a ticketā¦not an arrest!
Yep. What @mikel said.
Entering your car when you are suspected to have committed a minor traffic offence.
āThat is pure intimidation and invasion of privacy often used as an avenue to extort money from motorists,ā says lawyer Oloo. When a minor traffic offence has been committed, Section 117 (3) of the Traffic Act allows a police officer to serve the owner or the person in charge of the concerned vehicle with a police notification form charging such person with having committed the offence or offences indicated. The same can be affixed prominently to the vehicle. The suspected offender is to attend court to answer to the charge(s) within 48 hours or after seven days if the notification was affixed to the vehicle.
Read more at: Beware, police should never impose these illegal laws on you - The Standard