Mary, mother of Jesus in Islam

I have always admired how deeply Christians are disconnected from their own religion. Jesus, the Savior features in 99% of the new testament, but his mother, Mary is nowhere to be seen.

Except she has an entire chapter in the Qur’an.

That’s why I stopped going to church.

Why would you trust anything Islam says about Jesus or his family? Jesus lived in the 1st century, Islam appeared in the 6th Century. That is a clean 400 or 500 years after the events it purports to explain or report on. Common sense alone should tell you everything muslims claim to know about Jesus they either heard it from
Christians or they made it up along the way.

Anyway, Islam was built precisely to counter Christianity. Christians say Jesus is the Son of God, muslims say Jesus is the Son of Mary. It’s kinda childish how these debates go and personally I neither believe Christianity nor Islam but simply on the basis of logic it is impossible how someone living in the 6th century (muslims) could know more about Jesus than someone in the 1st century (Christians).

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He is Jesus the son Pantera. Yeshua Ben Pantera

Jesus was an alien hybrid. Mary was artificially inseminated. After his mission, Jesus was abducted by a spaceship. Hii story eti Jesus rose to the sky haimake sense

Who cares?

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Just wondering..

Would it be in order to declare a “Fatwa” on all the posters spreading falsehoods and herasy about the Prophet ( PBUH ) and the Holy Mother ( PBUH ) …??:enraged_face:

It’s less to do with trust and more to do with reasons why it is the way it is. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are known as Abrahamic faiths, because they can trace their roots back to Abraham (Ibrahim), the father of many nations, and Sarah (Zahra), his wife.

Jesus in Islam is considered a great prophet like Moses (Musa), but is not considered a deity. Because muslims consider it heresy for anyone to put themselves on God’s (Allah’s) level. There’s actually a verse (hadith) in some chapter (surah) explicity asking Jesus who exactly deitified him so as to make him the same as God.

But that’s besides the point. For those who are fascinated by religion, the interplay and interelationship between Christians and Muslims is a fascinatingly complex area of study, and once understood can be applied in solving some of the middle east’s problems.

Only degree holders need apply.

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unakufuru

Now that Jesus says no one gets to his fathers house without being born again…ukiuliza wasee wa church on what happens to all the old testament folks who existed before Jesus…wanaanza excuses and explanations…me husema…si mungu aue tu huyu shetani once and for all awache kusumbua watoto wake? Why create someone who’s giving your humans a hard time? Then punishe the same humans for being tricked by someone you created. Finish the fucking Satan

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Hehe. There’s some debate on that.. apparently when Jesus died, for the 3 days he was dead, he went down to hell to retrieve the souls of Abraham, Moses, David, Joshua, Samson, John the Baptist and others who had died before he came down to earth.

When you ask how it’s possible people divinely chosen by God himself can be sent to hell for doing what God instructed them to do, and all there is is silence from the rabbis.

That’s when you realise Christianity is a faith based political tool for not just Romans and Europeans, but for anyone who is willing to twist the words to suit their own narrative. Just look at Harry S. Truman.. he straight up changed the ‘Thou shalt not kill’ commandment to ‘Thou shalt not murder’ so Americans could rationalize Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear bombings. Along with millions killed during firebombings of Tokyo, Okinawa and Kobe.

Result? The country has not won a single engagement since August 1945 (Gulf war and Korean war don’t count).

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Chief, utashinda umetutishia hizi Fatwa mpaka lini? Fatwa ya David Wood iko wapi? He has done literally everything Fatwa-able na bado jamaa yuko hapa. @Jack_Black since you have brought up this issue about “hadiths”, what’s your opinion on the reliability of this hadith David Wood has been so kind to bring to our attention? @rexxsimba akiwatch hii si atapanda ndege mwenyewe to deliver justice on Msito David Wood.

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Disclaimer:
I am a Human Health Solutions Service Consultant and not an expert on religious texts or their interpretation beyond very common understanding.

However..
I must state that a lot of misquotes , misunderstandings , misrepresentation , misreporting , cherry picking , analysis out of context , being clever by half or just plain mischief abound when nitpicking or trying to decipher religious texts …

Polite Example :-

JESUS CHRIST turning water into wine at a wedding feast.

  • What really happened here ..??
  • Was it real water into real wine..??
  • If the net effect of drinking wine is intoxication , how does that square with the prohibition that drunkenness is a vice..??
  • Did certain exemptions apply to this hard and fast prohibition similar to the contested one about working on Sabbath…??

@messiahette :
Kindly weigh in with your vast expertise in these delicate and weighty matters ..:blush::rofl:

It is not me who has said it. Wazungu have come to that conclusion.

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1928517460187128185?t=JgZENS5yVfs8YToBl2abIQ&s=19

@Abba
@Lionheart

Would Christians be allowed to do this in Mecca or Medina ..???:enraged_face::hot_springs:

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1928733410031255598?t=A0cPYaPvYg3l_gorhT9hJA&s=19

Islam and christianity have no difference when it come to extremism. It’s only that the Christianity today has been washed with wokeness. The golden age of Christianity ended during the times of the Knight templars.

They wouldn’t even think about it.

What the bledi hell did I just hear!:laughing:

you don’t say wali @kodiaga the mighty prophet? :rofl:

Every race , nation community and faith on this planet has its share of extremists - but by far , Islam has the lions share ..

Secondly , familiarize yourself of the REAL meaning and origin of the English word “Woke” and stop parroting the Trump MAGA interpretation of that word.
( I have already published a lengthy , definitive opinion ).

The problem with extremists Islamists is that they want their cake and to eat it as well.
They want to enjoy religious freedoms in the West while they deny others the same freedoms in their own countries.

We all know what would happen if a bunch of Christians tried to hold a prayer service in Mecca or Medina.