Kibaki Inherited A DEAD Economy With A Negative Growth. Arap Mantis Awache Blame Game Yeye Ndiye Rais

[Ndindu]

Hon. Kibaki inherited a dead economy and he never kept on singing about Moi and his illiterate cronies. He embanked onto rebuilding Kenya and revived many dead state corporations.

Ruto and Gachagua tactic of blaming the previous regime is getting old.

[othello]

You people don’t recognize enough the kind of precipice the uhurunomics put us in. Well, the only thing JS knows better is conmanship, rewarding mediocrity, prioritizing politics etc, but you can’t compare the situation in 2002 with the 2023. Kusema ukweli ka ni Rao, maybe saizi tungekuwa tushadefault. Rao’s manifesto was about more spending, which meant its more uhurunomics. Ubwa ya mtu sana

[captain_obvious]

@othello

You people don’t recognize enough the kind of precipice the uhurunomics put us in. Well, the only thing JS knows better is conmanship, rewarding mediocrity, prioritizing politics etc, but you can’t compare the situation in 2002 with the 2023. Kusema ukweli ka ni Rao, maybe saizi tungekuwa tushadefault. Rao’s manifesto was about more spending, which meant its more uhurunomics. Ubwa ya mtu sana

Moi left this country in a worse position than Uhuru, Jambas awache excuses zake. He was deputy president, so he can’t claim to have been ambushed by the state of the economy.

[othello]

@captain obvious

Moi left this country in a worse position than Uhuru, Jambas awache excuses zake. He was deputy president, so he can’t claim to have been ambushed by the state of the economy.

Kuna excuses, but uhuru’s reckless spending can never be compared to any other past govt. Hapo ndipo mahali shida iko. Moi operated with a deficit of 4%, kibaki operated with almost none, but uhuru was 8%, for fucking 10 yrs. We always spent beyond our means. I dont recall ksh losing more than 20% of its value in 2002 like it has done in the recent past. Last time this happened was when JS and co were printing and giving out cash for campaign

[captain_obvious]

@othello

Kuna excuses, but uhuru’s reckless spending can never be compared to any other past govt. Hapo ndipo mahali shida iko. Moi operated with a deficit of 4%, kibaki operated with almost none, but uhuru was 8%, for fucking 10 yrs. We always spent beyond our means. I dont recall ksh losing more than 20% of its value in 2002 like it has done in the recent past. Last time this happened was when JS and co were printing and giving out cash for campaign

But who was deputy president during that period? Who had half of the government? The Kenyan DP as defined by the 2010 constitution is basically a co-president. The president can’t fire him/her. So if Ruto never explicitly called out Uhuru for those economic policies, he was fully on board. He can’t keep blaming the previous government, which he was a central part of.

[Private_developer1]

[mugwanjira]

@othello

Kuna excuses, but uhuru’s reckless spending can never be compared to any other past govt. Hapo ndipo mahali shida iko. Moi operated with a deficit of 4%, kibaki operated with almost none, but uhuru was 8%, for fucking 10 yrs. We always spent beyond our means. I dont recall ksh losing more than 20% of its value in 2002 like it has done in the recent past. Last time this happened was when JS and co were printing and giving out cash for campaign

Good point. But remember parliament has to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling. Remember also that the debt ceiling is raised in tranches of 10 years. Parliament approved raising of the debt ceiling at least 3 times during the Uhuru presidency.

[Old_Monk]

@othello

You people don’t recognize enough the kind of precipice the uhurunomics put us in. Well, the only thing JS knows better is conmanship, rewarding mediocrity, prioritizing politics etc, but you can’t compare the situation in 2002 with the 2023. Kusema ukweli ka ni Rao, maybe saizi tungekuwa tushadefault. Rao’s manifesto was about more spending, which meant its more uhurunomics. Ubwa ya mtu sana

Tunajua KK will never be accountable for anything and UDA mps were in jubiliee the other day rubber stamping executive.

[Sambamba]

@mugwanjira

Good point. But remember parliament has to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling. Remember also that the debt ceiling is raised in tranches of 10 years. Parliament approved raising of the debt ceiling at least 3 times during the Uhuru presidency.

Watu wa kk hawana akili

Chair of budget and appropriations committee - Kimani Ichung’wa

Mjority Leader - Aden Duale

[Trucker]

@othello

You people don’t recognize enough the kind of precipice the uhurunomics put us in. Well, the only thing JS knows better is conmanship, rewarding mediocrity, prioritizing politics etc, but you can’t compare the situation in 2002 with the 2023. Kusema ukweli ka ni Rao, maybe saizi tungekuwa tushadefault. Rao’s manifesto was about more spending, which meant its more uhurunomics. Ubwa ya mtu sana

Don’t forget that it was Uhuruto

[othello]

@captain obvious

But who was deputy president during that period? Who had half of the government? The Kenyan DP as defined by the 2010 constitution is basically a co-president. The president can’t fire him/her. So if Ruto never explicitly called out Uhuru for those economic policies, he was fully on board. He can’t keep blaming the previous government, which he was a central part of.

@mugwanjira

Good point. But remember parliament has to authorize the raising of the debt ceiling. Remember also that the debt ceiling is raised in tranches of 10 years. Parliament approved raising of the debt ceiling at least 3 times during the Uhuru presidency.

@Trucker

Don’t forget that it was Uhuruto

And I agree with all of you. Few things to note:

1. The buck stops with the president. Yes, it’s being said he was being held by the balls, and that most of the project implemented was supervised by JS(he said it in an interview). But there was no difference between first term and second term.
2. Parliament is an extension of executive. It’s a precedent set by the so called tyranny of numbers. Those fools do not make any judgement on their own. Saizi JS akiamka aseme tax increase by 50%, nobody will save your asses.

[Trucker]

@othello

And I agree with all of you. Few things to note:

1. The buck stops with the president. Yes, it’s being said he was being held by the balls, and that most of the project implemented was supervised by JS(he said it in an interview). But there was no difference between first term and second term.
2. Parliament is an extension of executive. It’s a precedent set by the so called tyranny of numbers. Those fools do not make any judgement on their own. Saizi JS akiamka aseme tax increase by 50%, nobody will save your asses.

If it’s too much for Ruto, he can always step down and say the mess is too much for him to sort

[Straw_man]

Ruto only complained when it was evident that Uhuru was not going to support him. Before then he was defending all the decisions of the president. Uhuru was even begging the oaf to go easy on the campaigns and do some work. Remember this man had 50%of the government appointments. He should show us how his half did better than Uhuru’s. Apparently Uhuru stopped them from working but he didn’t stop them from stealing. Watu si wajinga buana.

[IsMundu]

JSKS found himself in a very bad place:

a) Massive debt,
b) increasing global dollar appreciation,
c) drought,
d) already committed, off-budget projects
e) unstable global supply chains shaken by the Russia-Ukraine conflict - barely recovered from COVID

Also:
i) The nomination of 50 CSs (bloated government),
ii) poor handling or the banditry menace,
iii) poor handling of corruption cases,
iv) perceived wastage of public resources,
v) perceived lack of empathy for suffering Kenyans (including civil servants whose salaries are delayed)
vi) very loose, non-diplomatic tongues (by the likes of Rigathi and Ichung’wa)

…make for very bad optics! Perception is everything!

Conversely, President Kibaki took 3 years to turn around the economy. Let’s see how JSKS does it.

The recent arrangements to buy subsidized food supplies via KNTC, and the buying for oil in KES instead of USD should help - if managed properly.

[Mwanakijiji]

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You people don’t recognize enough the kind of precipice the uhurunomics put us in. Well, the only thing JS knows better is conmanship, rewarding mediocrity, prioritizing politics etc, but you can’t compare the situation in 2002 with the 2023. Kusema ukweli ka ni Rao, maybe saizi tungekuwa tushadefault. Rao’s manifesto was about more spending, which meant its more uhurunomics. Ubwa ya mtu sana
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Ruto will default just like Rao kwani yeye atatoa pesa wapi penye raila hangepata[/QUOTE]

[Mwanakijiji]

@IsMundu

JSKS found himself in a very bad place:

a) Massive debt,
b) increasing global dollar appreciation,
c) drought,
d) already committed, off-budget projects
e) unstable global supply chains shaken by the Russia-Ukraine conflict - barely recovered from COVID

Also:
i) The nomination of 50 CSs (bloated government),
ii) poor handling or the banditry menace,
iii) poor handling of corruption cases,
iv) perceived wastage of public resources,
v) perceived lack of empathy for suffering Kenyans (including civil servants whose salaries are delayed)
vi) very loose, non-diplomatic tongues (by the likes of Rigathi and Ichung’wa)

…make for very bad optics! Perception is everything!

Conversely, President Kibaki took 3 years to turn around the economy. Let’s see how JSKS does it.

The recent arrangements to buy subsidized food supplies via KNTC, and the buying for oil in KES instead of USD should help - if managed properly.

we are buying oil using USD but we will pay after 9 months