Kenya needs an ethnic federalism

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You need to understand that Africans are people with a very low IQ

People want leaders from their own tribes because they want resources, opportunities, developments to be pulled to their tribe (while they see the other tribes suffer)

Otherwise if a leader was equally developing the nation and giving opportunities to everyone then no one would have cared which tribe the leader is from

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@langatkipro

I am not really advocating for it as per say.

Si ungeandika a tu ki Marakwet? :D:D

Per se

[Kalenjin101]

As long as a Maasai, Turkana, Borana or any other small tribe feels that the major tribes such as Kikuyus or Kalenjins are over-dominating the country’s politics at their expense, we shall need to have a real conversation.

As long as our politics are entirely based on ethnic numerics, tyranny of numbers and tribal alliances rather than ideologies, we shall need to have a real conversation.

As long as the sharing on the national resources, such as the ongoing revenue sharing debate, evokes strong tribal nationalism and ethnocentric self-preservation, we shall need to have a real conversation.

[Mwanakijiji]

@langatkipro

The comments in this post just prove what I have always advocated for. People feel that their tribe being in power represents their interest whatever. Because Kenyans cannot learn to coexist as one the best option is to have ethnic federal states running their one affairs and have rotational president to represent the country in foreign whatever.
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Only one tribe opposes this and they never give valid reasons

[Mwanakijiji]

@magazine

lets break up africa borders and draw them according to linguistic!, all our problems will be solved, in kenya, we don’t share any national or cultural values, that’s why some tribes view others as weird or backwards yet we were forced together. ,watch documentary below explaining it better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvKONiRHgkU

We actually do share a lot of values. And some tribes view others as backwards because of colonisation.

[Mwanakijiji]

@langatkipro

i am not

I am not really advocating for it as per say. I am trying to start a conversation around it. In Kenya people seems to be more aligned to their tribes than the country or the nation and that is where all our problems of corruption and impunity starts and reign

Dont be afraid of advocating for it. Every region needs the independence to manage their place without interference of the national government

[Mwanakijiji]

@spear

You keep repeating this every month with the same results. Rejection. Why. This idea is divisive, stupid and dangerous

If you want to celebrate tribes then promote tribal cultures and beliefs that make positive contributions to society. Your desire for individual tribal identity is not a priority for the majority of other Kenyans.

In governance anyone who mentions this should be shunned completely. Let’s all have a look at ethnic federalism examples. Ethiopia is a federal republic made up of a collection of tribal states. As we speak, 1.6 million Ethiopians are internally displaced refugees within the country as they were evicted and displaced at the common borders of this ethnic states who are fighting over borders. Secondly Amharic state which is the second biggest tribe in Ethiopia attempted a coup last year. They tried to seize state assembly and state to be run by some tribal radicals. PM Ably wore military fatigues and led the army to put it down. He soon realized the same radicals he set free from prison led the coup. Tigray state who are a small community and the immediate former powerful rulers of Ethiopia have broken away completely from federal government control. The state police is fully manned by their tribe members, very well armed, have put up roadblocks in all their roads on the border with the rest of Ethiopia to search anyone coming and giving permission to do so. They ignored PM Ably and conducted their own state elections. They picked their own MP’s for the local the state assembly. They are forming their own army judging by how much arms they have. Its a very dangerous development there in Ethiopia.

PM Ably last visit to Tigray last year involved heavy security, decoys and look alike bodyguards to protect him. Imagine a sitting head of state going through that in a country he is supposed to ran. Now Oromia state which is the same tribe as PM Ably is also in turmoil. You would think he would be very comfortable with this state right, No. He is not, apparently he is like President Uhuru and central. Its an strained relationship because their common interests are far apart. PM Ably rose to the top thanks to 7 years of sustained local based revolution by oromos against Tigray led Ethiopia. This is because the country development was centred on multinational needs not the people. All the roads, trains, power, water, security to protect the industries and bypass people. A spontaneous grassroots uprising tinkered for long until it was about to explode to a civil war. 20,000 oromo people died to force the Tigray to give up power for the country self preservation. With 30 million still in extreme poverty, 20 million in poverty then they were expecting a lot of immediate changes to people centred initiatives. PM Ably started well, reforms, peace, release of prisoners then become comfortable. He hasn’t reformed the economy fast enough and align development to help the people. Instead he has replaced rival oromia leaders so that he is not challenged by anyone. Impatience has lead to a second grassroots uprising in his home state. So far 2000 are dead and he has lost control of the internal dynamics of the country. Ironically he won the Noble peace price when he can’t be certain he can keep Ethiopia together.

Somali state in Ethiopia and Ethiopia military are doing their own operations in Gedo and Jubaland Somali that he is not in control of. The recent rivalries with KDF in Somali is news to PM Ably as well. Seems even his control to the military is not as strong as expected.

Look at Nigeria and its ethnic based federal states. Tribal chiefs keep spending $billions on grandiose projects that fail and stall every 5 years. Its a showcase of bad ethnic politics.

Very stupid idea to bring that to the very competitive obsessed Kenya politics. We are now moving from tribal politics to those who have vs those who don’t. The rich few vs the many poor. Hustles vs dynasties.

Remember to get there it was clans vs clans, sex vs sex and tribes vs tribes. I want a Kenya where Kurias can demand answers and development on equal footing like Kalenjins, Kikuyus, Luhyas and Luos. That will not happen if you still want to worship tribes in Kenya politics.

What about Switzerland, UK and other many European countries with regions dominated by ethnic groups. What about South Africa the United States. In fact most countries have federalism why cant it work in Kenya

[Mwanakijiji]

@magazine

have watched it a dozen times, key message is that for a country to be truly united, they must have a unifying factor, whether language, religion or culture, south Sudan started off well but was brought down by greed. but linguistic is a start, we have to start somewhere? coming to Kenya, the biggest divide is between bantus and nilotes, cushites already prefer staying alone especially those sharing Islam religion.

We have a language in Kenya. it is called Swahili

[ChifuMbitika]

@Finest wine

Langat this won’t work. We are way far too gone. If I understand Pauline’s post and the comments below, I sense that they are advocating for a Cendro king pin to represent ‘us’ come 2022. Currently there is none and this is where Uhuru is trying to ‘penya’. By kukatalia kwa power. Some of us want him gone, others want him to stay. And so he does not have the backing as far as I can see. And let no one try to talk to us about Waiguru or Peter Kenneth.

I fully concur