Intern Abuse

[system]

It has come to many people’s attention than interns in Kenya are being misused by employers. Many employers will hire as many interns as possible so as to save on employee costs and this is very bad to the economy.

Take a case where a company hires 20 employees and pays them 100,000/- each making it 2,000,000/- a month on salaries, in three months thats 6,000,000. Employers will decide and hire 20 interns who will do the work of 20 employees within the three month period as required in the school regulations. This will see the employer save 6M in salaries and use it for selfish gains. After the end of the three month period the employer will release the previous lot of interns and hire another lot. Once it comes to the taxman the employer will either indicate that he pays the interns or has 20 employees in his premises. Some employers are so cunning to the point of promising you work once you do 3 months extra work taking it to 6 months. Once the extra 3 months are over the employer will start playing hide and seek games with you but since you want the experience you just let it go

There is even a bill in Parliament that seeks to force employers compensate interns even its as little as 5,000 a month to just appreciate them for good work don

[system]

Which on ern can do the work if a 100k/month employee? Ako na hizo skills/experience?

[kush_yule_mnono]

SV wewe ni intern? Anyways ukona kapoint hapo … what does the labour law in Kinya say about working for a company on temporary basis for 90 days uninterupted.

[Veccino]

Interns wa medical courses as long as uko na degree kuna mshahara kila endmonth.
intern wa pharmacy hupewa around 92k monthly.
Full doctor hukula more than 150k monthly

[Shahid]

Quite rampant in the hospitality industry… whole financial year unapata ni supervisors only ndio payable employees, rest are interns!

[system]

@Shahid

Quite rampant in the hospitality industry… whole financial year unapata ni supervisors only ndio payable employees, rest are interns!

@Mundu Mulosi, is this true?

[kush_yule_mnono]

@Gendarme

@Mundu Mulosi, is this true?

Good question to a wrong supervisor … posho mill huwespata interns

[It_s_Le_Scumbag]

Is this intern abuse or exploitation?

[gashwin]

in my field the interns come in very raw. just some theory they crammed to pass exams. my organization takes in five to seven interns every three months and I have personally devoted minimum four hours every week to impart practical work and life skills as a group besides individual mentoring where i find shortcomings in their work. One thing we have noted is that they are being taught by fellows who finished their degrees and with no job openings they went back for masters and into teaching. Their lecturers’ only reality of the industry is the three months they went on internship themselves and in a field as dynamic as ours that reality is most times dated. Interns should thank their god when they get an opportunity to do real work but that does not excuse exploitation where the hosting organization should pay for work well done.

[gashwin]

@kush yule mnono

Good question to a wrong supervisor … posho mill huwespata interns

na wale wa food production?

[mundu_mulosi]

@Gendarme

@Mundu Mulosi, is this true?

Unfortunately very true, in some hotels, some very established ones, you find 40% of the employees ni interns or casuals especially in departments like kitchen, Housekeeping and the waiters.

[Unruly]

@gashwin

in my field the interns come in very raw. just some theory they crammed to pass exams. my organization takes in five to seven interns every three months and I have personally devoted minimum four hours every week to impart practical work and life skills as a group besides individual mentoring where i find shortcomings in their work. One thing we have noted is that they are being taught by fellows who finished their degrees and with no job openings they went back for masters and into teaching. Their lecturers’ only reality of the industry is the three months they went on internship themselves and in a field as dynamic as ours that reality is most times dated. Interns should thank their god when they get an opportunity to do real work but that does not excuse exploitation where the hosting organization should pay for work well done.

Sure, and that’s the main problem for the economy.

[Kaffir]

Depends most professions college or uni does nothing to prepare for realworld problems ! Remember was thrown infront of a linux server told to configure something on squid karibu niwache mharo hapo chini ! after a couple of years ilikuwa nywee and interns with their degrees knew shit about shit, when I quit simu zilikuwa hazi ishi !

[M2Random]

There is NOTHING wrong in what the companies are doing. It is just simple economics…demand and supply…when the supply of labor rises, the wages fall to unimaginable levels. This will encourage people to pursue science courses that they like avoiding. Take a course, for example, computer science. You will never see computer scientists going through that BS…because there is more demand for those skills than supply…even from abroad as a freelancer. Students should be advised to pursue careers where there are shortages (sciences)…not arts and business courses…we already have enough labor in them.

[Eng_iti]

if you don’t use people, you shall be used-

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[system]

@kaimera

It has come to many people’s attention than interns in Kenya are being misused by employers. Many employers will hire as many interns as possible so as to save on employee costs and this is very bad to the economy.

Take a case where a company hires 20 employees and pays them 100,000/- each making it 2,000,000/- a month on salaries, in three months thats 6,000,000. Employers will decide and hire 20 interns who will do the work of 20 employees within the three month period as required in the school regulations. This will see the employer save 6M in salaries and use it for selfish gains. After the end of the three month period the employer will release the previous lot of interns and hire another lot. Once it comes to the taxman the employer will either indicate that he pays the interns or has 20 employees in his premises. Some employers are so cunning to the point of promising you work once you do 3 months extra work taking it to 6 months. Once the extra 3 months are over the employer will start playing hide and seek games with you but since you want the experience you just let it go

There is even a bill in Parliament that seeks to force employers compensate interns even its as little as 5,000 a month to just appreciate them for good work don

There’s an SRC circular somewhere providing guidance on this. The gov’t itself does not pay its Clinical Officer interns, among others.

[Okwonkwo]

niliskia kwingine interns pay for the internship?

[Okwonkwo]

@M2Random

There is NOTHING wrong in what the companies are doing. It is just simple economics…demand and supply…when the supply of labor rises, the wages fall to unimaginable levels. This will encourage people to pursue science courses that they like avoiding. Take a course, for example, computer science. You will never see computer scientists going through that BS…because there is more demand for those skills than supply…even from abroad as a freelancer. Students should be advised to pursue careers where there are shortages (sciences)…not arts and business courses…we already have enough labor in them.

There are Comp science graduates who are loitering around in the Presidential Digital Talent Program (or something like that), PDTP. One told me they just get shuffled from one govt office to the other doing odd duties like repairing copiers, printing docs for people, data entry in the name of internship. He was lamenting that there is zero skills he’s learning in the govt internship.

[Okwonkwo]

@gashwin

in my field the interns come in very raw. just some theory they crammed to pass exams. my organization takes in five to seven interns every three months and I have personally devoted minimum four hours every week to impart practical work and life skills as a group besides individual mentoring where i find shortcomings in their work. One thing we have noted is that they are being taught by fellows who finished their degrees and with no job openings they went back for masters and into teaching. Their lecturers’ only reality of the industry is the three months they went on internship themselves and in a field as dynamic as ours that reality is most times dated. Interns should thank their god when they get an opportunity to do real work but that does not excuse exploitation where the hosting organization should pay for work well done.

Hiyo mentorship ni muhimu sana mwalimu. Good job. Mimi nilietewa mmoja to mentor from the PDTP program I mentioned above and he doesn’t want to go back there. They are supposed to intern 9 months in the public sector, kwa serikali and 2 months in the private sector.

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@M2Random

There is NOTHING wrong in what the companies are doing. It is just simple economics…demand and supply…when the supply of labor rises, the wages fall to unimaginable levels. This will encourage people to pursue science courses that they like avoiding. Take a course, for example, computer science. You will never see computer scientists going through that BS…because there is more demand for those skills than supply…even from abroad as a freelancer. Students should be advised to pursue careers where there are shortages (sciences)…not arts and business courses…we already have enough labor in them.

Uwongo my friend… Skimming through the job adverts you will realize business related jobs ( sales, marketing, finance,procurement,HR,PR etc) are more than the science related job adverts