Another narrative will be born that this and that number of us is in Nairobi…and Nairobi next elections rigging will have been born.
To a people who don’t know unity,later on fights will emerge with each clan wanting not to be under another or locals filling the imported ones should now leave.
Eventually we will deal with rebel movements there
One more thing, go and dig history, at no point had somalia been a better place than Kenya, the only achievement is when siad Barre adopted a script and made rhe Somali language their national language which resulted to an increase in literacy rates, but limited to the somali language.
So it’s possible all elements from there will always find Kenya the best place, wether they are good or bad people. When another regime takes over in Mogadishu, it may start hunting some elements deep into Kenya just like Rwanda hunts deep into DRC.
Kenya haiwezi kuwa kama DRC. Mtauwana 3 weeks, ya nne mkufe njaa. Hamna chakula ama resources zinaeza sustain watu kwa msitu for 2 months. Hamna misitu. Hamna natural resources.
sure there should be some action because the warlords from Mogadishu actually comand Northeastern politics am sure more than the locals , so kuna ukweli pahali because jambazi and his appetite for kugula gives more audience to wealthy foreign illegal traders than local leadership
True. Research shows Kenya cannot descend to those levels because it lacks natural resources that can be controlled and generate income and global interests. Secondly and this will surprise many, Kenya’s multiple tribes. The tribes are many and it is near impossible to rally a conflict against tribe. ODM with Kasongo in it tried in 2007 and it didn’t reach civil war levels because of the tribe dynamics. Somalia is the most homogeneous nation in the world yet the most chaotic because rallying clans against others is easier due to age-old myths and stereotypes about the clans
Also Kenya is a strategic partner to US, NATO and now China. They wouldn’t want it to collapse because their operations in the region would also collapse, so they would move to snuff out the fire the moment it ignites. How long did it take in 2007 before John Kuffuor then Kofi Anaan landed in Kenya
That already happened in Wajir.
I have said it on this platform before, those people divide and rule is very easy because they do not like each other. Now what is going to happen is what happened in 2013.
The Degodia will import their people from Liben, the Garre from Dawa (this will be in Mandera), the Zubeiris will tell people from Jubaland to all move to Wajir and perhaps force the Degodia ti also import like all of Liben to Wajir to maintain power and the Aulihan will demand the two thirds of their community that are actually refugees from Somalia, not native to Kenya to get IDs(which they have been doing stealthly since 2012 anyways).
If we want a streamlined Somalis community, at some point in time there has to be mass deportations back to Ethiopia and Somalia of specific clans that are not even from here and leave the ones native to Kenya here.
Shida ni: Even the native ones in Kenya wako na kiburi and seem clueless!! Why the hell would Duale defend taking a new census when he knows his own clan will be removed from power if that happens??? They are no longer the majority even in Garissa town Constituency and his delusions that constituencies like Balambala still have his clansmen as a majority are hot air. The non Kenyan Aulihan migrated from Lower Juba took over a long time ago and we will definitely see a reboot of the conflict of 2014 between those two.
Noordin Hajj’s clan supporting non Kenyan Somalis coming to Kenya is also delulu given that their sub-clan is found only in Ijara and the rest do not like them much (they had some killings in 2024 and his brother who is the senator basically wanted blood for blood revenge against Duale’s clan I believe and the Aulihan are encroaching on their lands in Garissa). Ali Roba talking trash forgets that if we had a clever president who would just say the name “Degodia” he would shut up very quickly because he knows that his clan is just a small percentage away from losing power in Mandera and the Degodia gaining control of both Mandera(with the help of the Murule) and Wajir
The only ones who have been complaining and the rest of Kenya has been ignoring are the Ajuran of Wajir as Degodias have basically packed the county with their Ethiopian kinsmen and are trying to take over the constituencies occupied by their clan. That is why that Eldas MCA vanished.
Oh, and the Murule of Mandera complain too as they are marginalized because while they are secure in being Kenyan (There are Murule in Ethiopia but they are very VERY var, like bordering Eastern Oromia, close to Djibouti so there is no illegal immigration of Murule across borders because the Kenyan ones border Somalia, around El Wak, not Ethiopia) they have borne both the Maheran intrusions into their pasturelands, the seizure of their town and Al Shabaab attacks and for a long time even Kenyan El Wak was under the Maheran even though it is their home town.
Given that the Murule have on many ocassions sided with the Degodia trying to pack Mandera and remove the Gare(Akina Ali Roba’s clan) from power, a three-way conflict in Mandera is not off the cards. Indeed, it has been brewing since Rhamu town was burnt down some years so… there is that.
I am all for a census.
Where in the process, we verify who is Kenyan and who is not and kickstart their deportation process.
LAkini ata kama huna akili jaribu kufikiria. If they do a census for one tribe in 2025, when the rest of the country was counted in 2019, it means somali region will have five years of extra growth counted. That extra growth of five years is not included for the rest of the country when dividing resources. This is just another trick by people who cannot build their own country and are busy running to kenya
Ongea bila kuguza akili yangu hivo, iguze tu by illustrating your argument which I challenge by saying:
If the 2009 census numbers from there were erroneous, trying to correct those numbers in 2019 has created a political problem and an economic error in the sense that KNBS data and projections were challenged in the 2009 census without any reasonable scientific explanation, when KNBS challenged the figures, they used the courts.
The same has happened in 2019 and now we are having a census. Going by that trend, however wrong the figures will be, they will stay and people like you from the mountain will keep crying one man one shilling. Forgetting you were against the 2010 constitution while that is the period we utilized folks from there in mediation a final draft which became the law. So they want to maximize on resource allocation even with fake figures.
It gets messier considering how as long as you belong to a given clan, it doesn’t matter if you are from Ethiopia or somalia just talk to the elders:
To any keen observer, the period 2009 to 2010 is when the Kenya somalia maritime boundary was created. One wonders why people signed an MoU created by Norway without ensuring any loophole exists. All Somalia was looking for is a written admission by Kenya the boundary between them has not been agreed even though without such Kenya was at a better position to exert her desired boundary.
I believe this games from NE undermine statehood and in the fullness of time we will see the clear picture like the way GoK realized last minute before ICJ it had been trapped, crying to submit new evidence while other critical evidence had been hidden by somalia only claiming it was destroyed by war.
So the mischief is, do a dubious thing for the so called 5 year extra growth with the benefit of using projections so that when the time comes, you argue it can’t be because 5 years ago it was this why now this?
So what’s the endgame ke’s core doesn’t depend on nep for anything neither resources nor food security the real issue is when and if the numbers are massaged up where will the influx of new citizens go will they remain in nep or move to the core of Kenya if it’s the latter then we have a problem if it’s the former nothing to worry about they will self destruct before they pose any significant threat.
Kikekuyu, skia vizuri, the colonial political economy is being dismantled to build a Kenya for all Kenyans. I know you enjoy the status quo so much. Inheriting the whitoids colonial infrastructure is sweet. But there’s more to this county than Macadamia. Enda uza uoga huko.
i’m not that, but i understand the lies being sold around that a Kenya for everybody is being build.How?
As far as i know, a Kenya for everybody was in the Bomas draft constitution,which was rejected by those you call Kikekuyu,but they belived the marginalized people from NE are neutral and so they formed committtes with the marginalized and gave us the 2010 constitution.Our side decided not to let the opportunity pass and compromised with them by demanding devolution among other things.
Incase you do not know, we ensured a Kenya for everybody is created by categorizing land as private,communal and public.Then compromsed by saying parliament will set minimum and maximum acreage.That has never happened.Then we had a TJRC report,mandating the creation of a TJRC to prosecute all matters raised,non has happenned…and many other matters.
So, just like you were wrong in shouting Hustlers, you are wrong in thinking a Kenya for eerybody is being created
i agree with your conclusion, hoping even if it doesnt affect other areas our country will continue to repect freedom of worship and assosciation. I hope they will not do the nonsense we once heard that NE will be declared a muslim only area or they do like in Somalia,only Islam is allowed