Dark Forest theory: A terrifying explanation of why we haven’t heard from aliens yet

The Milky Way galaxy has 200 billion stars and perhaps 100 billion planets. If even a small fraction of those planets harbored life, and even if only a pathetic scattering of those planets had lifeforms which became intelligent, our galaxy would be teeming with alien civilizations, some of whom would be either looking for us or discoverable for at least a little while.

The number of alien civilizations the galaxy should have can be determined by an equation, the Drake equation, that turns the above factors into variables. When you plug them into the formula, you find that there should be at least 20 civilizations in our cosmic neighborhood. This makes the fact that we have yet to find any other life in the cosmos almost shocking when you think about it.

The seeming discord between how many advanced civilizations ought to be in space and the lack of evidence for any is known as the Fermi paradox. It has lead to dozens of hypotheses and potential solutions over the last few decades.
Many of the solutions aim at one of the variables in the Drake equation and try to make the supposed number of civilizations lower so it is more reasonable for us to not have met anybody yet.

Some propose that life starting at all is rare, others suggest that the development of intelligence is the bottleneck, others still posit that most civilizations would live for a short time before blowing themselves up or, conversely, never even manage to invent the radio.

[SIZE=6]One solution, however, is a bit darker than the others[/SIZE]
The Dark Forest solution explains why we haven’t heard from aliens by positing that they are purposefully keeping quiet.
The reasoning is laid out best in the science fiction novel The Dark Forest, by Liu Cixin. The plot of the book, the second in a series, concerns questions of how to best interact with potentially hostile alien life.

In the novel, the argument is laid out like this:
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[li]All life desires to stay alive.[/li][li]There is no way to know if other lifeforms can or will destroy you if given a chance.[/li][li]Lacking assurances, the safest option for any species is to annihilate other life forms before they have a chance to do the same.[/li][/ul]
Since all other lifeforms in the novel are risk-averse and willing to do anything to save themselves, contact of any kind is dangerous, as it almost assuredly would lead to the contacted race wiping out whoever was foolish enough to give away their location. This leads to all civilizations attempting to hide in radio silence.

The reasoning behind the paranoia is explained in this paragraph from the novel:
[INDENT]The universe is a dark forest. Every civilization is an armed hunter stalking through the trees like a ghost, gently pushing aside branches that block the path and trying to tread without sound. Even breathing is done with care. The hunter has to be careful, because everywhere in the forest are stealthy hunters like him. If he finds another life—another hunter, angel, or a demon, a delicate infant to tottering old man, a fairy or demigod—there’s only one thing he can do: open fire and eliminate them.[/INDENT]
It’s a bit like the prisoner’s dilemma really, and the concept is based on applied game theory.
[SIZE=6]Is there a non-literary approach to this solution? Or is it just an idea that is good for a story?[/SIZE]
It was also put forth by scientist David Brin as a potential solution to the lack of radio evidence for alien life. While the variant he describes relies on robotic probes carrying out the task of killing off civilizations other than the one that created it, the core concept remains the same. In this excerpt, he explains why this solution an attractive one for scientific purposes and terrifying for existential reasons:
[INDENT]“It is consistent with all of the facts and philosophical principles described in the first part of this article. There is no need to struggle to suppress the elements of the Drake equation in order to explain the Great Silence, nor need we suggest that no ETIS anywhere would bear the cost of interstellar travel. It need only happen once for the results of this scenario to become the equilibrium condition in the Galaxy. We would not have detected extraterrestrial radio traffic- nor would any ETIS have ever settled on Earth- because all were killed shortly after discovering radio.”[/INDENT]
He then reminds us that broadcasts of I Love Lucy are racing across the cosmos, ready to reveal our location and sense of humor to anybody who can pick them up.

[SIZE=6]How plausible is this theory?[/SIZE]
This theory has the advantage of only affecting one of the variables in the Drake equation and affecting the one that is the most open to speculation. It also doesn’t require us to make broad assumptions about how all alien civilizations behave; a single advanced race that acts this way would be enough to cause the observed situation.
This would also explain why we haven’t found any mundane alien radio signals despite a century of being able to pick them up. Just as we accidentally send our radio signals, meant for us, out into space, another civilization would be likely to as well. One possible reason for this is that other civilizations are so fearful of being detected that they purposely avoid sending out any radio evidence of their existence.

It does, however, assume that other species have a similar risk aversion level and reasoning process as we do or that there really is one civilization out there killing off anybody they think can harm them. This is a big assumption.
[SIZE=6]Why is this theory dark?[/SIZE]
We’ve been screaming our existence to the cosmos for almost one hundred years now. Any aliens within a one hundred light year radius of us would be receiving a barrage of radio signals from our direction. If we had reason to avoid letting aliens know about us, as Stephen Hawking thought we did, we might have a problem.
Why haven’t we heard from aliens yet? If this solution is correct, they are purposely hiding in the darkness of space for fear of death. Should we stop broadcasting our existence to the universe too then? Or would alien life be a little nicer than we’ve been in our history?

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Homo Sapiens appeared on earth about 200k years ago. That means we have been on earth for 0.00444% of its existence. If aliens exist, it’s possible they came during the 0.99556% of the earth’s existence when we weren’t there, saw nothing and left. Maybe they lived here, died and all evidence of their existence was wiped out. Jesus was on earth just 2000 years ago yet some people debate whether he even existed. Imagine if aliens were here 500m years ago, 1 billion years, 2 billion years? We would never know.

Historical Jesus may have existed, just like Muhammed
But what they claimed was made up

I would argue that there may be aliens within the 700 quintillion terrestrial planets in the universe. They are many light years away and they have no way of travelling to earth and vice versa
and such technology will never exist

Such technology will never exist? An impossible to prove claim. In the next 200-300 years we will maybe have anti-matter ships, generation ships, cyborgs, life extensions/anti-aging tech etc all things that can enable space travel over long distances.

Ooliskia wapi?

Fermi paradox follower here

future prediction websites like this: https://www.futuretimeline.net/

What I know is there is God, angels and devils. We can’t see devils and angels now not because they are far away but God planned it that way. They are all around us. Angels wanaishi in the heavens but some are also here with us, Satans/devils wanaishi hapa but they can travel as far as the first heaven but they can’t enter it.God throne is above the seven heavens. The planets and space are God creations and they worship God every second. This information is readily available in Torah, Bible and Qur’an.

Why should they hide and yet have never met?
Imagine you never met a lion how do you tell it is dangerous to come near it or even touch it.
In short, if alien civilizations exist they have no reason to fear humans coz they have never met and try to take advantage of the other

:D:D Are you trolling?

Have you ever given the thought that maybe w[SIZE=4]e’ve already found aliens (but are too distracted to realize it due to the preconceived images of E.T since the word “alien” probably makes one envision a spooky humanoid with a big, bald head ama ile predator ya swasniga …or[/SIZE] that maybe WE are the aliens …or,since the universe is expanding galaxies are moving farther apart, with distant stars appearing dimmer to us, all thanks to the ‘dark energy’ ,whatever that is,stretching the universe so much that earthlings will no longer be able to see the light of any galaxies if we don’t explore as much of the universe as possible before then…or, the aliens are dead already.

The universe may be teeming with hospitable planets, but there’s no guarantee they’ll stay that way long enough for life to evolve,vindu vichejanga .
Our own imagination and attention span limit our search for extraterrestrials if we don’t learn to broaden our frames of reference. High time tuulizane “wangapi?” …from zeta reticulii

Some astronomers wrote down an equation that allowed them to calculate the total number of planets out there that might have civilization on them. They found that there were 10 billion trillion planets in the right place where life and civilizations could form.

If alien civilization are statistically so likely, why haven’t astronomers found any sign of them?

Think about it this way. The pacific ocean has 187 quintillion gallons of water. if i throw a bucket in there and pull it out i’ll find nothing but water in it. So should i take the fact that i don’t see any life in my bucket to tell me there’s no life in the pacific ocean?

There are currently 228,450 known species in the Pacific ocean and scientists say more than 90% of ocean life remains unknown and unexplored. In 2020, biologists identified 1,500 new species.

They’re just not in my bucket.

Every time we look at an individual star, that’s like dropping a bucket in in ocean. We’ll have to look at a lot of stars and search through a lot of data until we find the clue that leads us to another civilization.

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There may be life on Kepler 22b, a planet in the Cygnus Constellation. It is located 600 light years from earth.
That planet is in the habitable zone, an area around a star where water can exist in liquid form.
Will humanity ever travel fast enough to cover a distance of 600 light years in the shortest time possible?