CITAM Church Online

[system]

@Ice_Cube

:eek::eek: But the “man of God” of that Church is infallible right?

You mean the pastor? Of course very fallible, he’s human.

[Duke_of_Thika_Road]

@Purple

Let me derail kiasi. Nilienda church ya future husband imagine wanaita pastor na bibi yake, who’s also a pastoress, ‘Mum and dad?’ I thought hiyo upuzi ni ya the kyunas strictly? Alafu service ya kutoa sadaka lasts just as long as the song service. Hakuna kutoa sadaka kama umeketi chini just passing the offertory bag to your neighbor, noooo you’re made to stand up and walk to the altar. Kulikuwa na 3 levels of offerings, small-medium- and large offerings aka tithes. Each with its fanfare. Since they’re officiating the wedding ile bill tutapewa sitaki kujua, it’s not free…:eek::eek:

Poleni…Apparently, most of the churches have been turned into business ventures(Yet they don’t want to pay taxes). Most have schools which the members can’t even take their kids because of the fees charged. However, we have some churches here in Nairobi that are level-headed they don’t pressurize or twist their members into giving with silly promises. Allow me to mention some(the list is not exhaustive) - Baptist, Nairobi Chapel, Nairobi Lighthouse, CITAM. The pastors are salaried and pay taxes and give offerings/tithes like the other members. The funds are managed by Deacon Boards and are audited every year. We

[system]

@Duke of Thika Road

Poleni…Apparently, most of the churches have been turned into business ventures(Yet they don’t want to pay taxes). Most have schools which the members can’t even take their kids because of the fees charged. However, we have some churches here in Nairobi that are level-headed they don’t pressurize or twist their members into giving with silly promises. Allow me to mention some(the list is not exhaustive) - Baptist, Nairobi Chapel, Nairobi Lighthouse, CITAM. The pastors are salaried and pay taxes and give offerings/tithes like the other members. The funds are managed by Deacon Boards and are audited every year. We

I think I like Nairobi chapel best. Citam is also quite rational in their approach. Everyone I’ve met who goes to Nbi chapel is exactly the kind of Christian I’d like to be. Also their PMC classes are up there…after 10 weeks of classes, the church takes those couples out of town for a retreat.

[Duke_of_Thika_Road]

@Purple

Let me derail kiasi. Nilienda church ya future husband imagine wanaita pastor na bibi yake, who’s also a pastoress, ‘Mum and dad?’ I thought hiyo upuzi ni ya the kyunas strictly? Alafu service ya kutoa sadaka lasts just as long as the song service. Hakuna kutoa sadaka kama umeketi chini just passing the offertory bag to your neighbor, noooo you’re made to stand up and walk to the altar. Kulikuwa na 3 levels of offerings, small-medium- and large offerings aka tithes. Each with its fanfare. Since they’re officiating the wedding ile bill tutapewa sitaki kujua, it’s not free…:eek::eek:

Look at Jesus Is The Winner Ministry(In Roysambu - Church ya Bishop Mwai). That Church has a congregation of over 10,000 who attend every Sunday. Most of the Congregants come from areas like Githurai, Mwiki, and other “low-income” areas in Nairobi yet the Church found it fit to buid “Jewel Complex” next to TRM yet some of the members struggle on well-equipped schools and hospitals to take their children. Would it have been wise if they would have built a school or a hospital instead. This is one area where the Catholic Church beats these other churches hands down. Look at some of the best hospitals and schools and you will realize that they are(were) Catholic managed.

Some of these “panda mbegu” churches give politicians pulpit to spew their tribal hatred and in return give lots of the cash to the church. One thing that I always advocate against is being a religious sycophant I don’t take everything that my pastor asks cause I believe he is human. You have to ask the why questions

[magreb]

@Duke of Thika Road

Look at Jesus Is The Winner Ministry(In Roysambu - Church ya Bishop Mwai). That Church has a congregation of over 10,000 who attend every Sunday. Most of the Congregants come from areas like Githurai, Mwiki, and other “low-income” areas in Nairobi yet the Church found it fit to buid “Jewel Complex” next to TRM yet some of the members struggle on well-equipped schools and hospitals to take their children. Would it have been wise if they would have built a school or a hospital instead. This is one area where the Catholic Church beats these other churches hands down. Look at some of the best hospitals and schools and you will realize that they are(were) Catholic managed.

Some of these “panda mbegu” churches give politicians pulpit to spew their tribal hatred and in return give lots of the cash to the church. One thing that I always advocate against is being a religious sycophant I don’t take everything that my pastor asks cause I believe he is human. You have to ask the why questions

Siku hizi najiombea kwangu.

[SnazzyKenyan]

@Purple

Let me derail kiasi. Nilienda church ya future husband imagine wanaita pastor na bibi yake, who’s also a pastoress, ‘Mum and dad?’ I thought hiyo upuzi ni ya the kyunas strictly? Alafu service ya kutoa sadaka lasts just as long as the song service. Hakuna kutoa sadaka kama umeketi chini just passing the offertory bag to your neighbor, noooo you’re made to stand up and walk to the altar. Kulikuwa na 3 levels of offerings, small-medium- and large offerings aka tithes. Each with its fanfare. Since they’re officiating the wedding ile bill tutapewa sitaki kujua, it’s not free…:eek::eek:

R u talking about a church that I know? Maybe.

Iko kunguru nanyandua ya hiyo kanisa nikimuuliza mbona yeye huita Pasta wao ‘dad’ akaniuliza mbona sisi huita wetu ‘father’
@Liberty kuom.

[Kunyaza]

@SnazzyKenyan

R u talking about a church that I know? Maybe.

Iko kunguru nanyandua ya hiyo kanisa nikimuuliza mbona yeye huita Pasta wao ‘dad’ akaniuliza mbona sisi huita wetu ‘father’
@Liberty kuom.

:D:D:D

[system]

aaaish! ckiza the message mambo hayo mengine wachia church leaders and God

[omhangla]

Been a Citam member for last 8 years and I can say is the church where I found peace and contentment

[Wechez]

@Duke of Thika Road

Poleni…Apparently, most of the churches have been turned into business ventures(Yet they don’t want to pay taxes). Most have schools which the members can’t even take their kids because of the fees charged. However, we have some churches here in Nairobi that are level-headed they don’t pressurize or twist their members into giving with silly promises. Allow me to mention some(the list is not exhaustive) - Baptist, Nairobi Chapel, Nairobi Lighthouse, CITAM. The pastors are salaried and pay taxes and give offerings/tithes like the other members. The funds are managed by Deacon Boards and are audited every year. We

Exclude Nairobi chapel hao ni wezi

[Electronics4u]

I disliked that church since that time they used to air a program on KBC English service on Saturday mornings, cutting short some nice hip hop or house muzik…

[Duke_of_Thika_Road]

@Wechez

Exclude Nairobi chapel hao ni wezi

Walikuibia nini?

[Mambombaya]

@Purple

Let me derail kiasi. Nilienda church ya future husband imagine wanaita pastor na bibi yake, who’s also a pastoress, ‘Mum and dad?’ I thought hiyo upuzi ni ya the kyunas strictly? Alafu service ya kutoa sadaka lasts just as long as the song service. Hakuna kutoa sadaka kama umeketi chini just passing the offertory bag to your neighbor, noooo you’re made to stand up and walk to the altar. Kulikuwa na 3 levels of offerings, small-medium- and large offerings aka tithes. Each with its fanfare. Since they’re officiating the wedding ile bill tutapewa sitaki kujua, it’s not free…:eek::eek:

mkipewa io bill ndio mtaaza ku google:

A.G. civil marriage requirements…
is ‘come we stay’ legally binding…
man marries fiancee with 100ksh budget…:p:p:p:p:p