Afghanistan: No Other Country Should Make It Their Responsibility To Secure Another Forever...

[SIZE=6]No matter what Afghanistan’s Constitution says, after 20 years there,
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Jill Lawrence
USA TODAY

When a country has its flag and claims independence, then it wants another country to protect it militarily and financially,
then it should just accept to be the colony of the provider. You can’t have it both ways forever.

It is nightmarish to imagine what will happen to Afghan women as a ruthless Taliban regime takes hold – what is already happening. It’s even more tragic knowing that America gave so many of them a taste of freedom and opportunity, of the potential for full lives. Today’s college students are too young to remember the utter shock of seeing a country of women wearing burqas, head-to-toe coverings with small patches of mesh in the eye area. Women who looked all the same, women who were completely hidden, women unable to see except barely and straight ahead.

It was a nightmare. It was 20 years ago. Will it come back? Are we to blame?

The Taliban march to power, so quick, so easy, so obviously in the works for months, makes a mockery of earnest pleas to include women on the Afghan government’s team in peace negotiations with the Taliban. As if they ever would have agreed to a peaceful political solution and protection of women’s rights, or kept their word if they gave it. As if women at the table could have made a difference.

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Just last year, there were “targeted attacks on women leading up to the start of the negotiations,” including an assassination attempt on Fawzia Koofi, one of four women on the government’s negotiating team, according to the latest State Department report on human rights. The Taliban also “burned a girls’ school in Takhar Province” and about a year ago prevented 200 women from taking university entrance exams “by threatening them with fines.”

[SIZE=6]A catalog of horrors against women[/SIZE]
The Afghan Constitution says women must be represented in government, and they are. It says they can vote, and they do, making up about a third of the electorate in 2019. Millions of girls have gone to school. There has been progress, no doubt, and it is in grave danger.

But women in Afghanistan, the report says, are the victims of “cultural” factors that range from raw Taliban brutality to government negligence, cruelty and injustice: investigations that didn’t happen, local police who didn’t know their responsibilities, women who were imprisoned because they reported being victims of crimes, or at the request of family members, or as proxies for male relatives convicted of crimes.

There’s no end to this type of thing, in accountings by our own government and other close observers. Human Rights Watch said a year ago that the legal, educational and political gains for women and girls were “partial and fragile even in government-controlled areas,” and were eroding. The inescapable conclusion is that no matter what the Afghan Constitution says, after 20 years, we were not even close to establishing herd immunity to extremism and misogyny in Afghanistan.

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In truth, the State Department report is a catalogue of horrors that knows no national boundaries. Women all over the world are in trouble, the kind that leads to stunted lives or even death.

They are fleeing gang violence in Central America, and sometimes the United States has to decide whether to let them in to seek asylum. They may be subject to female genital mutilation, a barbaric “cutting” practice to keep girls virgins, meanwhile destroying their health and well-being for the rest of their lives. sometimes U.S. authorities have to decide whether to grant asylum to those fleeing this, too.

Women in Saudi Arabia must have male guardians who control fundamental aspects of their lives. The State Department report on human rights there measures progress like this: A woman can now “move freely within the country” without her male guardian’s approval, the Ministry of Education decided women studying abroad did not have to be accompanied by a male guardian, and a court ruled that “a woman living independently did not constitute a criminal act.”

On the other hand, an abusive guardian can be fatal. Fighting for rights like driving can send women to prison, where they report being tortured and sexually assaulted. Sharia law discriminates against women and in some cases, the State Department noted, “the testimony of a woman equals half that of a man.” Sometimes “courts punished victims as well as perpetrators” in rape cases and women still require a guardian’s permission to leave prisons after their sentence is served.

It’s heartbreaking. But we can’t save all the world’s women, or even Afghanistan’s.

[SIZE=6]Taliban’s long-planned show of force[/SIZE]
Accounts of entrenched, widespread corruption in Afghanistan still have the power to shock, as do revelations of one U.S leader after another compounding disaster by spreading false information. This time it’s not about inflated body counts in Vietnam. It’s their delusional or perhaps intentionally misleading assessments of the commitment and capabilities of Afghan troops.

We should also ask if in fact our intelligence services knew that the Taliban started buying off Afghan officials and planning this show of force “early last year,” as an Afghan military officer and a U.S official told The Washington Post. And if not, why not?

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President Joe Biden has faced test after test in his short tenure to date. It may be that only a commander in chief who spent decades dealing with foreign leaders and visiting troops as a senator and a vice president, whose son had served, who is 78 and “the fourth President to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan,” could have the confidence and resolve and political courage to finally say: This is it, it ends here and now, and no future president will have to bear the burden of this decision.

America was a superpower before the war in Afghanistan. We are still a superpower. Our military is still the strongest in the world, our troops the best. But they can’t make a country honest or unified or patriotic. And they can’t make a country care about its own women. No one could do that but Afghanistan, no matter how long we stayed.

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Wameanza propaganda za kishienzi, si watu wakubali tu walishindwa na waache stori mingi?
Ati they went to Afghanistan to protect women :D:D:D
Heneway, I agree with president Biden, how much longer was the US supposed to stay? People wailing that they spent trillions of dollars, lost loved ones and limbs, for what? Guess what, if you’d stayed longer, you’d have spent more money, lost more lives and limbs. The Taliban would have remained stronger. So it makes sense to cut your losses, no matter how embarrassing it is.

Afghans want to live as taliban wants them to. Majority approve them and that includes the women. its not like taliban rule from above the clouds; they are amidst people. The only way the US would have succeeded is if they had imposed a brand of Christianity, and preferably the fervent American evangelical obsession. Without this, islam is still the obsession of the populace and taliban would obviously have an easy come back because all they do is follow fundamentalist islam.
However, Americans, with their liberal mindset that all religions and non-religion are equal, are weak from this perspective. The only strength taliban had over Americans is that they are able to hold an opinion and stick to it even though others disagree. liberal American philosophy that all opinions are acceptable made it impossible to influence the minds of Afghanis, whose religious and political minds stayed where they were on 10 september 2001.

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The events we are seeing now are sadly the proof that no amount of American military force would ever deliver a stable, united, secure Afghanistan.
What is happening now could just as easily have happened five years ago — or fifteen years in the future.
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We went to Afghanistan almost 20 years ago with clear goals: get those who attacked us on September 11, 2001 — and make sure al Qaeda could not use Afghanistan as a base from which to attack us again.
We did that — a decade ago.
Our mission was never supposed to be nation-building.
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7057 soldiers have died in action, 30177 suicide since 9/11 thats 5 soldiers on god’s front door everyday and nothing to show for their forced democracy on others

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VERIFY did reverse image searches and found the photo on the left isn’t from Kabul, Afghanistan.
Instead, it was taken in the Philippines on November 17, 2013 and shows people being evacuated to Manila following Super Typhoon Haiyan.

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What a waste, they lost. Taliban won, end of story

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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Ousted Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, who fled his country as its capital Kabul was being overtaken by Taliban fighters, is now in the United Arab Emirates, the Emirati government confirmed to CNBC.
“The UAE Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation can confirm that the UAE has welcomed President Ashraf Ghani and his family into the country on humanitarian grounds,” the Foreign Ministry said in a statement Wednesday, which was later posted to its website.

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Ghani left Afghanistan on Sunday evening, with no announcement or clear reporting on where he was going. As the Taliban entered the presidential palace and declared the war “over,” Ghani, 72, said he fled to prevent “a flood of bloodshed.”

“The Taliban have won with the judgment of their swords and guns, and are now responsible for the honor, property and self-preservation of their countrymen,” Ghani said. He was elected president twice, the first time in September 2014.
The White House, Pentagon and State Department did not immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment.
Taliban forces made a series of stunning advances across the country of 39 million in the wake of the Biden administration and NATO announcing a full departure of U.S. and coalition forces by the end of August.
Amid the exodus of foreign troops, the Taliban were able to declare near-complete control of the country within 10 days of seizing their first provincial capital.

August 16, 2021
The Russian embassy in Kabul alleged Monday that Afghan President Ashraf Ghani has fled from Kabul with four cars and a helicopter full of cash, Russia’s state news agency RIA Novosti reported.
The report quoted embassy spokesman Nikita Ishchenko as saying that “the collapse of the regime … is most eloquently characterized by how Ghani escaped from Afghanistan: four cars were filled with money, they tried to shove another part of the money into a helicopter, but not everything fit. And some of the money was left lying on the tarmac.
Asked by The Associated Press about how he knew the details of Ghani’s departure, Ishchenko said “well, we are working here,” without offering any more details. The AP couldn’t independently verify his claims.
Ghani left Kabul on Sunday as the Taliban swept into the Afghan capital. Media reports suggested that the president went to neighboring Tajikistan or Uzbekistan, but there was no official confirmation of his whereabouts.