Why do Africans still flock to the US despite the "ngori" cop on black madness we see online

#81
Are you Kenyan? What have you done about what plagues 'our' country?
IDIOT!
This is the kind of stupidity I was talking about. I'd rather be an idiot for telling the truth. Kila saa: America this, America that, nyef nyef nyef. Why does it bother you whether I'm a Kenyan or not. Kenyans need to address the real issues. Why do you know what I have done? A lot in my community.
 
#82
Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I find it rather annoying that, someone who has never been to or lived in the US, knows more about racism and police brutality in the US. It is quite admirable that Kenyans are upset about the unfortunate incidents against African Americans.
However, I wish that Kenyans could speak up and condemn tribalism, nepotism, corruption and police brutality in Kenya. Not just speak about it on keyboards, but openly on the streets.
While it's true that there have been several well-documented cases in the US, most of the country is very safe and people go about their businesses without any fears, day or night. In general, life is good and there are many opportunities for people who work hard. When such unfortunate incidents happen, people come together and openly air their grievances without pretending that all is well. How many Kenyan 'celebrities' have openly spoken up against police brutality and corruption?
How I wish that Kenyans could funnel their energy to their communities. Charity begins at home











 
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NYC/NBO

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#84
What can a watchman do to protect you if you are attacked by armed robbers? Most Kenyans do not have watchmen or private security and they have never encountered crime. I myself lived in a house in a certain town that had no fence, no gate it was near a main road no burglar proof and I was safe, my neighbor had a Benz and a Harley davidson bike. There's no country safer than Kenya. Especially not America. So in US your neighbor calls police for a welfare check on your house then they come shoot you in your own house like they did the black lady doctor?
I don't know a single "high end" neighborhood in Nairobi that doesn't have private security. LITERALLY all of them have private security.
And it's not just at home, it's everywhere.
Rich Kenyans: air tight security inside and outside the home; they never move around hovyo hovyo without security plans. Ones that usually have most to loose.
Middle class Kenyans: Moderate security because of cost limitation not because of assumed safety; think industrial padlocks, grills on windows, doors, etc
Poor Kenyans: Umaskini allows for minimal security especially in rural areas. Poverty also minimizes armed crime for them because they are assumed to not have any belongings worth steal. You won't see many people bothering to put grills and padlocks in mabati slums

Consider yourself lucky if you lived in an unarmed house near a main road. That's not even the case for the coast region which is the safest and it's certainly not the case for most people who live under Nairobi's insecurity.
 

Purple

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#85
This is the kind of stupidity I was talking about. I'd rather be an idiot for telling the truth. Kila saa: America this, America that, nyef nyef nyef. Why does it bother you whether I'm a Kenyan or not. Kenyans need to address the real issues. Why do you know what I have done? A lot in my community.
Some talkers have assumed the role of American race experts despite not living here. It’s so ridiculous! :D
 
#86
I don't know a single "high end" neighborhood in Nairobi that doesn't have private security. LITERALLY all of them have private security.
And it's not just at home, it's everywhere.
Rich Kenyans: air tight security inside and outside the home; they never move around hovyo hovyo without security plans. Ones that usually have most to loose.
Middle class Kenyans: Moderate security because of cost limitation not because of assumed safety; think industrial padlocks, grills on windows, doors, etc
Poor Kenyans: Umaskini allows for minimal security especially in rural areas. Poverty also minimizes armed crime for them because they are assumed to not have any belongings worth steal. You won't see many people bothering to put grills and padlocks in mabati slums

Consider yourself lucky if you lived in an unarmed house near a main road. That's not even the case for the coast region which is the safest and it's certainly not the case for most people who live under Nairobi's insecurity.
I don't consider myself to be lucky or the exception. The area I lived in was inhabited by others before and after myself. It is still an upmarket part of that town. I do not deny that crime is everywhere but I can tell you, Kenya is a really safe place. I have lived in different parts of Kenya where I was a minority, and I never experienced any type of crime. Besides snatching and pick pocketing in CBD many years back and highway robbers with a hammer and a pistol. Other than that I can tell you I have no encounter with crime. Even whites who come here say they feel much more secure in Kenya than back home. At first they are shocked to see kids walk home from school, run around supermarkets. Majority of Kenyans including security have no guns so they are not providing much security if you think of it considering that thieves have guns mostly.
 

NYC/NBO

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#87
I don't consider myself to be lucky or the exception. The area I lived in was inhabited by others before and after myself. It is still an upmarket part of that town. I do not deny that crime is everywhere but I can tell you, Kenya is a really safe place. I have lived in different parts of Kenya where I was a minority, and I never experienced any type of crime. Besides snatching and pick pocketing in CBD many years back and highway robbers with a hammer and a pistol. Other than that I can tell you I have no encounter with crime. Even whites who come here say they feel much more secure in Kenya than back home. At first they are shocked to see kids walk home from school, run around supermarkets. Majority of Kenyans including security have no guns so they are not providing much security if you think of it considering that thieves have guns mostly.
Well it's not the Kenya that I personally know. I doubt it the norm for most Kenyans either. Pls know that the whites who flock to Kenya are actually the racist ones among their groups. Those are the whites who love to reimagine the old world by enjoying unlimited black servitude. A white person flies into Kenya and he's crowned royalty at JKIA by nyeusis. I don't mean to be facetious but I honestly can't imagine a white person "settling" in Kenya unless they have racist tendencies. It's a certain type of mzungu that likes the adoration from nyeusis that you simply can't find ANYWHERE else in this world outside of Africa. They can live among Kenyans and still hate us like the arabs and Hindis lol
 
#88
Well it's not the Kenya that I personally know. I doubt it the norm for most Kenyans either. Pls know that the whites who flock to Kenya are actually the racist ones among their groups. Those are the whites who love to reimagine the old world by enjoying unlimited black servitude. A white person flies into Kenya and he's crowned royalty at JKIA by nyeusis. I don't mean to be facetious but I honestly can't imagine a white person "settling" in Kenya unless they have racist tendencies. It's a certain type of mzungu that likes the adoration from nyeusis that you simply can't find ANYWHERE else in this world outside of Africa. They can live among Kenyans and still hate us like the arabs and Hindis lol
:D:D:D wueh
 
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#89
I don't consider myself to be lucky or the exception. The area I lived in was inhabited by others before and after myself. It is still an upmarket part of that town. I do not deny that crime is everywhere but I can tell you, Kenya is a really safe place. I have lived in different parts of Kenya where I was a minority, and I never experienced any type of crime. Besides snatching and pick pocketing in CBD many years back and highway robbers with a hammer and a pistol. Other than that I can tell you I have no encounter with crime. Even whites who come here say they feel much more secure in Kenya than back home. At first they are shocked to see kids walk home from school, run around supermarkets. Majority of Kenyans including security have no guns so they are not providing much security if you think of it considering that thieves have guns mostly.
:D:D:D Wueh
 
#90
Well it's not the Kenya that I personally know. I doubt it the norm for most Kenyans either. Pls know that the whites who flock to Kenya are actually the racist ones among their groups. Those are the whites who love to reimagine the old world by enjoying unlimited black servitude. A white person flies into Kenya and he's crowned royalty at JKIA by nyeusis. I don't mean to be facetious but I honestly can't imagine a white person "settling" in Kenya unless they have racist tendencies. It's a certain type of mzungu that likes the adoration from nyeusis that you simply can't find ANYWHERE else in this world outside of Africa. They can live among Kenyans and still hate us like the arabs and Hindis lol
Majority are married to blacks and live in remote areas. They like the closer to nature type of living. I don't know about racist tendencies since they are a minority and must deal with blacks. I don't know how you can hate someone then have kids with them, makes no sense.
 
#91
Lots of whataboutism in this thread. (In) security in Kenya has nothing to do with police brutality and racial profiling in America. But go on shitting on us Vumbistanis. That's what you call us right? Do whatever it takes to console yourselves from the fact that you live in a country where everyone sees you as subhuman at best. At least you're getting paid in dollars, right? Hakuna kitu vumbistani anaweza kuambia nyinyi wanadiaspora.
 
#92
White people are crazy and fucked up....Every race has its failings but world history is filled with the World suffering due to the white man...Napoleon, white, the Roman Empire, white, The first, second and all wars preceding that(Europe was in a perpetual state of war until nukes came along). The USA has been in perpetual war since its formation. This people are just nuts. But their system is unraveling, USA is a third world country with Gucci bags as COVID has shown, and Europe has not faired better either....To those saying a crime is a crime, African Americans did not ask to be taken to the United States and as much as I don't like being personal, don't be stupid
:D:D:D wueh
 

Mjuaji

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#93
Celebrating a wrongful death is pure evil but I can't tell that he's a Trumspter so I think you're reaching. Even if he was one, that's his political choice and if we happen to vote for the same guy, well & good. That's democracy.
Madam, you're on record siding with known racists and murderers. You can't have your GOP/Jubilee cake and eat it too.
 

NYC/NBO

Village Elder
#94
Lots of whataboutism in this thread. (In) security in Kenya has nothing to do with police brutality and racial profiling in America. But go on shitting on us Vumbistanis. That's what you call us right? Do whatever it takes to console yourselves from the fact that you live in a country where everyone sees you as subhuman at best. At least you're getting paid in dollars, right? Hakuna kitu vumbistani anaweza kuambia nyinyi wanadiaspora.
I must be in the twilight zone because surely this notion "Do whatever it takes to console yourselves from the fact that you live in a country where everyone sees you as subhuman at best" is exactly what the world thinks about Africans especially those in Africa. I think it's funny that it's flipped as an insult ati against diasporans. Despite racism, Black people in America still have the highest standard of living for a black group in the world. The tide won't change until African nations are economically/politically capable of defending themselves and their descendants. unfortunately that's how the world works whether you choose to believe it or not. look at Kenya's political economy, look at how black people are living in Kenya and reconsider
 
#95
I must be in the twilight zone because surely this notion "Do whatever it takes to console yourselves from the fact that you live in a country where everyone sees you as subhuman at best" is exactly what the world thinks about Africans especially those in Africa. I think it's funny that it's flipped as an insult ati against diasporans. Despite racism, Black people in America still have the highest standard of living for a black group in the world. The tide won't change until African nations are economically/politically capable of defending themselves and their descendants. unfortunately that's how the world works whether you choose to believe it or not. look at Kenya's political economy, look at how black people are living in Kenya and reconsider
Nice cherry picking skills. At least you understood my point.
 

Tony254

Village Elder
#99
It's the money...what else. I could probably make an okay living as a nurse in kenya, but inside I would feel terrible knowing there's another country I can go where they can pay me 10x more. Even though the racial tensions exist, it's not bad enough to say, "let me pack up and go back to my country. "The black guy who was choked to death by the police had committed a crime, low level as it was, it's still a crime.
He was ACCUSED of commiting a crime. It was just an accusation it doesn't mean he was guilty. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law
 
Africans and their derivatives will never be respected until Africa is respectable.

Anglia Kenya, tuliwachiwa reli: haifanyi

Nairobi dam: where?

The streets were clean and jobs plenty.

But today, Kenyans complain about unemployment and then tomorrow they pop out a child.

The reason why the world treats Africans like shit is because Africa is shit

And instead of improving life in Africa, Africans spend their time whining about racism
 

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