Why do Africans still flock to the US despite the "ngori" cop on black madness we see online

Purple

Moderator
Staff member
#61
Was suprised u said that, had to read it again, what happened to innocent until proven guilty? Have seen walami accused of crimes like mass shootings, sijawahi ona wakipewa same treatment.
Maybe I was typing fast and didn’t elaborate my point clearly. Where we have arrived as black people living in white spaces is the point where we need to see white people and basically run in the opposite direction. We have seen countless cases where minor altercations ended up in death. We must stop these issues from happening in the first place. What the cop did was pure evil and he must be punished. Floyd didn’t deserve to die for any reason at all. But why did he give them a reason to stop him? I hear it was something forgery related...why did Floyd give these racist cops a reason to start hunting him down? Black people need to examine their ways, for real. We are already guilty until proven innocent so why, why, why give these racist institutions the opportunity to beat, kill and jail you? Let’s see what happens in a couple of days when we start to get a better picture of what led to the arrest. Again, I’m not advocating for his death or supporting the racist cops in any way.
 

ndume

Village Elder
#63
You will never change their mentality because racism is in their genes!! A black president couldn’t do it! Should we cower and hide away in a closet? Personally, I’m not going anywhere because my eyes are fixated on the mullah $. There’s a saying which goes like, the bad eyes of a frog do not prevent a cow from drinking at a river. In order to thrive as a black person here, you must conform to the system. Respect the rules to the T. Don’t give the cops a reason to stop you for anything. And when they do stop you, comply, comply, comply. Just become jello and don’t argue with them or say something smart. Floyd must have said something snarky and you know white people will never allow a nigga to talk back at them. Now he’s dead! His loss, see? I know it’s unfair for us but that’s the hand that fate dealt us so suck it up basically....
Your reasoning is the most flawed I have ever encountered. Now you have come up with a new excuse, that he must have talked back to the cops. So you get arrested and you dont talk, assuming he even talked, the video does not support your assertion. You are..... Most are not immigrants like you, they were born there, it is there only home. And here you are saying that they should not raise their voices against injustice? I am starting to wonder whether you are sane, I mean, i find it difficult to argue against your unreasonable, quite retarded, demeaning, retrogressive and obviously, imbecile points of view.

Your tribe, The Kikuyus, did welcome the colonialists without resistance in 1800s, how did it end? Did colonialists spare their lands?

I know you are descended from home guards though, worshiping white skin is an acquired trait in you, obviously. Quite frankly, it is the reason you are there, where you are now
 
#64
Maybe I was typing fast and didn’t elaborate my point clearly. Where we have arrived as black people living in white spaces is the point where we need to see white people and basically run in the opposite direction. We have seen countless cases where minor altercations ended up in death. We must stop these issues from happening in the first place. What the cop did was pure evil and he must be punished. Floyd didn’t deserve to die for any reason at all. But why did he give them a reason to stop him? I hear it was something forgery related...why did Floyd give these racist cops a reason to start hunting him down? Black people need to examine their ways, for real. We are already guilty until proven innocent so why, why, why give these racist institutions the opportunity to beat, kill and jail you? Let’s see what happens in a couple of days when we start to get a better picture of what led to the arrest. Again, I’m not advocating for his death or supporting the racist cops in any way.
What do you mean by white spaces? Only Native Americans can claim ownership to this land. White (pink or whatever color) people and black people belong to the same category: immigrants. And why do we need to run away from them? It's about time we stand our ground (like the recent New Yorker) and fight back.
Floyd didn't give them a reason to kill him. None, at all. He was only accused of passing a fake $20. We know this because the clerk said so. Floyd didn't get a chance to tell his side and no one has proven that the money was indeed fake. There have been several people arrested for passing what turned out to be legal currency (especially the rare $2 bill), and only release after the police confirmed that the money was real. There was a man arrested at Best Buy a few years ago. Apparently even the cops didn't know that $2 bills exist. Why didn't Floyd get his chance in court? I understand your point that black people should avoid committing crime so that they don't attract cops, but let's be real: many innocent people get hurt for no reason at all. The burden is on the police to change their attitude in relation to how they interact with people of color.
That pig was a cold murderer, period. From media reports, there was an off-duty fire fighter who cautioned the cops to assess Floyd's vitals but they ignored her. That video is real painful to watch. That choke hold is not even allowed by the police department, according to media reports. Why did the police lie (before the video emerged) that Floyd experienced a medical condition after his arrest?
It's extremely sad.
Back to my point, black people should never ever ever ever have to feel like they don't belong.
I'm glad that, for once, you haven't blamed it on Democrats (ouch!)
 
#65
I got conflicted after watching the live murder of a black dude by cops in Nimesota.. Why do Africans still flock to the US in very large numbers, despite the openly racist events we see on TV? Why not Europe, South America or even Shaina? Some say that the "beauty" of US racism is that you know it is there and is shown live live. That despite its occasional gory images, the US might be the only place outside of Africa where the black man can still choot to the stars if they so desire and can work for it. The glass ceiling is higher for a black man in the US than in all other parts of the world outside Africa.

Is it true that in many places in Europe, Africans are tolerated as long as they hawk, shine shoes, cook ,or serve as night guards. But it is rare to find African professionals outside of Britain. In Asia, there are a handful of African hustlers and gigolos, but no serious professionals. Russia and most of South America are basically no go zones for nyeuthis. In India, they will happily throw fecal matter at you because nyeuthis are considered a little below the untouchables
Did you add Europe and China to your list on non-racist continents? Please check your facts again.
 
#67
Nilisema "most" .. how many times have we heard "stop resisting" or "show your hands" but niggaz don't comply.
Did you know that "stop resisting" is one of the most abused phrases ever? Cops are required to inform you their intention and reasons before arresting you. But what we see on many situations are cops yelling instructions and forcefully handcuffing people, and when people question why they're being arrested, they're accused of resisting! It's plain stupid. Why accuse someone of resisting arrest when they don't even know why they're being arrested?
 

Simiyu22

Village Sponsor
#68
Africans living in the US, legitimately since our economy due to poor governance can not offer them similar opportunities, have a defense mechanism, understandably so, as they have no alternatives, that tells them that it can never happen to them, it happens only to those wayward black Americans.

The reality is that Amadou Diallo was an African, he was shot 40 times right outside his apartment. As an African who has never had to deal with this BS, it comes as a great shock when you finally grasp how terrifying it is. I remember watching a documentary about a woman who was manhandled by the police for not indicating at a turning then dying under mysterious circumstances in jail. Where it was said that she committed suicide. The next day while driving to work, as one of the undisciplined Kenyans Kagwe talks about, I didn't indicate at a turning, suddenly I was gripped by fear. Later on I thought to myself, if just watching police brutality on TV can make my internalize fear of the police, what about the blacks in America. Can you imagine being scared of being pulled over by the police every time you are on the road? Every time you don't signal at a turn, you are scared of the police pouncing on you? What does that do to you psychologically?As a black person especially if you grow up in America. At least for immigrants your sense of self is developed by the time you arrive on the scene.


American police are part of the institutionalized racism and white supremacy in America. Blacks get the same treatment in stores, eateries and even apartments where your skin color makes you a suspect immediately. It's kind of a hard life to live being victimized and targeted simply because of your race.

Kenya may not be alot of things but I thank God for the level of security you feel as a Kenyan, you always feel safe and devoid of fear unlike the feeling of someone is out to get you that's become part of the black American identity. There's so much rage in black Americans because of the victimization that comes from a white supremacist society. No wonder they're always so defensive and aggressive. When they see a white cop, the fight or flight mechanism comes on reflex because it's literally a matter of life and death.

I wish our continent could offer opportunities so that our people don't have to immigrate to places where the weather sucks and the social fiber is so eroded that's its normal for entire institutions to be biased against you because of your race.
Just remember theres' two sides to America. When you depend on youtube videos unfortunately you only hear of and at best partially understand one side.
 

Purple

Moderator
Staff member
#69
What do you mean by white spaces? Only Native Americans can claim ownership to this land. White (pink or whatever color) people and black people belong to the same category: immigrants. And why do we need to run away from them? It's about time we stand our ground (like the recent New Yorker) and fight back.
Floyd didn't give them a reason to kill him. None, at all. He was only accused of passing a fake $20. We know this because the clerk said so. Floyd didn't get a chance to tell his side and no one has proven that the money was indeed fake. There have been several people arrested for passing what turned out to be legal currency (especially the rare $2 bill), and only release after the police confirmed that the money was real. There was a man arrested at Best Buy a few years ago. Apparently even the cops didn't know that $2 bills exist. Why didn't Floyd get his chance in court? I understand your point that black people should avoid committing crime so that they don't attract cops, but let's be real: many innocent people get hurt for no reason at all. The burden is on the police to change their attitude in relation to how they interact with people of color.
That pig was a cold murderer, period. From media reports, there was an off-duty fire fighter who cautioned the cops to assess Floyd's vitals but they ignored her. That video is real painful to watch. That choke hold is not even allowed by the police department, according to media reports. Why did the police lie (before the video emerged) that Floyd experienced a medical condition after his arrest?
It's extremely sad.
Back to my point, black people should never ever ever ever have to feel like they don't belong.
I'm glad that, for once, you haven't blamed it on Democrats (ouch!)
This Floyd case has brought memories of Eric Garner flooding into my mind. Given how high profile Garner's case was, I would think that most police departments in the US watched that horrid, choking video during their in-service training. These guys had seen this scenario before, they knew people were filming and that it would go viral. Why didn't they snap out of it? It boggles my mind!

It's because racism is reflexive especially in times of duress. These cops are acting out based on primal fear of the black man, a feeling that is embedded deep inside their reptilian brain. You have to appreciate that most white people are scared to death of black men. That's why you see them using excessive force; they are SCARED. This ongoing, pervasive fear is the reason why police brutality against blacks is very hard to solve. We need a different, radical approach.
 
#70
White people are crazy and fucked up....Every race has its failings but world history is filled with the World suffering due to the white man...Napoleon, white, the Roman Empire, white, The first, second and all wars preceding that(Europe was in a perpetual state of war until nukes came along). The USA has been in perpetual war since its formation. This people are just nuts. But their system is unraveling, USA is a third world country with Gucci bags as COVID has shown, and Europe has not faired better either....To those saying a crime is a crime, African Americans did not ask to be taken to the United States and as much as I don't like being personal, don't be stupid
 
#71
You are trying too much to fit in with the whiteys, I now understand why the African Americans hates you immigrants.
Kenyans who are in the US have big egos bcz back home there's this attitude that it's raining money over there. So guys who are there feel like they are in heaven. It is part of their identity that they are the chosen ones so reconciling that with ugly reality of the place like harsh weather, crime, racism is hard. There's so many returnees who can't stand the idea of returning to America but most people have not come across them. America is great especially if you are poor in Kenya, wealthy people have no need for America beyond studies. They will tell you Kenya is paradise. Mzungu who have come as expatriates and refused to go back home will tell you its paradise. Retirees. Name it. Kenya is only problematic if you don't have resources but if you do, you will find it heavenly. I understand our Kenyans who don't want anything negative said about America, they've developed superiority complex bcz of America. It hurts their self esteem to hear that their heaven ain't all that and they are not wanted there bcz of their race. My nephew and niece who have a white dad come to Kenya and when it's time to return they're always resistant because they can already tell the difference.
 
#72
There reality is that even here in Kenya police will kill you with impunity. So mambo za police brutality cancel one another. Kenya police killed more than 10 men while enforcing Covid-19 rules. The victims will never get justice.
Difference is police in Kenya do not kill you bcz you are black or because you belong to a certain ethnicity. We are not talking about police brutality here, we are talking about institutionalized racism because they are not brutal across the board like KPS. They are brutal to blacks only.
 
#74
She is hopeful that in June, 3 days from now, there will be bodies on the streets of Nairobi. She said that is what her white masters said. If she can hope for thousands of dead niggers in niggerlands, what is one nigger to her?
True definition of a coon. Internalized racism on steroids.
 
Last edited:

NYC/NBO

Village Elder
#75
You guys. Kenya is not safe, let us not kid ourselves. You are on your own if you don't have a watchman or private security. Try calling Kenya police next time you are involved in an accident, robbery, or your life is in danger and you'll realize quickly Kenya is a lawless land.
 
#76
Difference is police in Kenya do not kill you bcz you are black or because you belong to a certain ethnicity. We are not talking about police brutality here, we are talking about institutionalized racism because they are not brutal across the board like KPS. They are brutal to blacks only.
Really? I know we are charged up with emotions because we saw the video of George Floyd and how he was killed.
In Kenya police brutality is 100% directed at real Kenyans (Kikuyu, Luhya, Kamba, Kisii, Luo etc) while non of it is directed at white and yellow "Kenyans." I don't even think Kenya police are allowed to police white and yellow "Kenyans." These Kenyan D- swine see black skin their mind sees somebody to brutalize. They see anybody else and they are lost and confused how to proceed
So this is what we have.
American police brutalize black people 80% of the time but they also brutalize white people.
Kenya police brutalize black Kenyans 100% of the time.
I'm not trying to minimise the outrageous killing of George Floyd, MHSRIP, but I can't let Kenya police think they are doing better. They are doing worse.

Much much worse
 
Last edited:
#77
Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I find it rather annoying that, someone who has never been to or lived in the US, knows more about racism and police brutality in the US. It is quite admirable that Kenyans are upset about the unfortunate incidents against African Americans.
However, I wish that Kenyans could speak up and condemn tribalism, nepotism, corruption and police brutality in Kenya. Not just speak about it on keyboards, but openly on the streets.
While it's true that there have been several well-documented cases in the US, most of the country is very safe and people go about their businesses without any fears, day or night. In general, life is good and there are many opportunities for people who work hard. When such unfortunate incidents happen, people come together and openly air their grievances without pretending that all is well. How many Kenyan 'celebrities' have openly spoken up against police brutality and corruption?
How I wish that Kenyans could funnel their energy to their communities. Charity begins at home
 
#78
You guys. Kenya is not safe, let us not kid ourselves. You are on your own if you don't have a watchman or private security. Try calling Kenya police next time you are involved in an accident, robbery, or your life is in danger and you'll realize quickly Kenya is a lawless land.
What can a watchman do to protect you if you are attacked by armed robbers? Most Kenyans do not have watchmen or private security and they have never encountered crime. I myself lived in a house in a certain town that had no fence, no gate it was near a main road no burglar proof and I was safe, my neighbor had a Benz and a Harley davidson bike. There's no country safer than Kenya. Especially not America. So in US your neighbor calls police for a welfare check on your house then they come shoot you in your own house like they did the black lady doctor?
 

Blasty

Senior Villager
#79
Even without reading I'll answer you " lack of opportunities in their homeland countries" . You'd rather die trying than living hungry
How now? In my family am still looked 'down' upon coz Mimi ndio sijawai enda :majuu', but when shit hits the fan on some crazy issues they all fall on their knees asking me to sort them out.
Coz Mimi ndio kiongos kwa Mambo ya mji hapa!

Having said that, there r no opportunities huko majuu', just schemes to make mulkah n come back (if ur bright like my siblings).Hukuzaliwa majuu'! So enda, tengeneza pesa urudi kwenu.

My Mom once asked me why av never thot of going uko nikamwambia 'America kwi jam muno, siezani nayo'.Never talked about it anymore, she respected my decision.
 

Blasty

Senior Villager
#80
Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I find it rather annoying that, someone who has never been to or lived in the US, knows more about racism and police brutality in the US. It is quite admirable that Kenyans are upset about the unfortunate incidents against African Americans.
However, I wish that Kenyans could speak up and condemn tribalism, nepotism, corruption and police brutality in Kenya. Not just speak about it on keyboards, but openly on the streets.
While it's true that there have been several well-documented cases in the US, most of the country is very safe and people go about their businesses without any fears, day or night. In general, life is good and there are many opportunities for people who work hard. When such unfortunate incidents happen, people come together and openly air their grievances without pretending that all is well. How many Kenyan 'celebrities' have openly spoken up against police brutality and corruption?
How I wish that Kenyans could funnel their energy to their communities. Charity begins at home
Are you Kenyan? What have you done about what plagues 'our' country?
IDIOT!
 

Top