Virgin Mary apparition spotted at local church in Kasarani

[Stormtrooper98]

Brethren and disbelievers, I greet you all in peace. So apparently this happened at a catholic church. In what is clearly yet another case of mass hysteria (like we witnessed a few years ago at Starehe Girls where girls genuinely believed they were getting sick from a mysterious, non-existent disease), someone claimed to see the Virgin Mary, started wailing and triggered an outbreak amongst the Christian faithfuls who all too eager to share in the experience, also started screaming and yelling all over the place. You can see even the priests at the front are a bit stunned by the bizarre turn of events and are quite clueless on what to do.

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Now imagine if we never caught this on camera? These Christians would happily run home that day and tell all and sundry what they had “witnessed”. We would literally have no way of verifying anything they said. All we would have is a large group of people repeating the same thing, who genuinely believe they saw Virgin Mary. This story would be repeated to children and eventually it would be an established fact that Virgin Mary appeared in Kasarani.

This brings me to 1st Corinthians 15 where Apostle Paul asserts that Christ died for our sins, was buried, raised on the 3rd day and appeared to several groups of people amongst them “more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.” I really wonder did Jesus genuinely appear to these 500 brothers and sisters or someone saw a strange cloud, or possibly even hallucinated (after maybe an intense session of fasting, prayer and dancing, use of psychedellics etc) started screaming triggering mass hysteria? What do you think guys, did these 500 brethren whoever they are, really see Jesus?

[hakimoto]

Reflection thieth

[Finest_wine]

When our Blessed Mother appears in a place, we Catholics know it is time to UP our prayers.

[messiahette]

@Stormtrooper98

Brethren and disbelievers, I greet you all in peace. So apparently this happened at a catholic church. In what is clearly yet another case of mass hysteria (like we witnessed a few years ago at Starehe Girls where girls genuinely believed they were getting sick from a mysterious, non-existent disease), someone claimed to see the Virgin Mary, started wailing and triggered an outbreak amongst the Christian faithfuls who all too eager to share in the experience, also started screaming and yelling all over the place. You can see even the priests at the front are a bit stunned by the bizarre turn of events and are quite clueless on what to do.

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My friend, what is “Virgin Mary?” Is Catholicism even Christianity? Is it??? According to Biblical scripture, it’s not actually……Teachings such as purgatory, sacraments, immaculate conception, transubstantiation and praying the rosary are teachings and beliefs within Catholicism — not the true Word of God. The Catholic institution is and has always been antichrist and you will find that real Protestants want nothing to do with it. That’s not to say that all Catholics aren’t Christians because the definition of a Christian is someone who believes that Jesus Christ (ONLY, not Christ as a co-redemptor with Mary) that He died for their sins and redemption is only through Jesus Christ.

[Bullet_farmer]

Someone said that most people are so sick and tired of the believe without seeing shit that we have resorted to performing insane unrealistic stunts just to win over other gullible folks.

[Stormtrooper98]

@messiahette

My friend, what is “Virgin Mary?” Is Catholicism even Christianity? Is it??? According to Biblical scripture, it’s not actually……Teachings such as purgatory, sacraments, immaculate conception, transubstantiation and praying the rosary are teachings and beliefs within Catholicism — not the true Word of God. The Catholic institution is and has always been antichrist and you will find that real Protestants want nothing to do with it. That’s not to say that all Catholics aren’t Christians because the definition of a Christian is someone who believes that Jesus Christ (ONLY, not Christ as a co-redemptor with Mary) that He died for their sins and redemption is only through Jesus Christ.

I thought you were convinced Mahdi is the antichrist, have you changed your position? Also I thought the antichrist was supposed to deny the Father and the Son, is that what the Catholics do? Catholics LOVE the Father and the Son aka Trinity.

[messiahette]

@Stormtrooper98

I thought you were convinced Mahdi is the antichrist, have you changed your position? Also I thought the antichrist was supposed to deny the Father and the Son, is that what the Catholics do? Catholics LOVE the Father and the Son aka Trinity.

The Islam Mahdi is indeed the main antichrist during the tribulation, who will work in tandem with the false prophet (aka the Catholic pope). Islam and Roman Catholicism (formerly pagan Rome) have always been buddies in the persecution of true believers and Jews. It will happen again. Already the grand Imam of Al-Azhar mosque in Egypt and Pope Francis are building this interreligious cathedral/mosque/synagogue as a symbol of “unity” in Abu Dhabi. We believe that it is a preparation for the abomination of desolation spoken of in Daniel 11 & Matthew 24.

Unholy marriage between Islam and Roman Catholicism
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[messiahette]

@Stormtrooper98

Also I thought the antichrist was supposed to deny the Father and the Son, is that what the Catholics do? Catholics LOVE the Father and the Son aka Trinity.

Actually Catholics believe that Mary was a co-redemptor with Christ; that she also played a role in redemption because her own birth was also a virgin birth just like Jesus. This is the false Roman Catholic doctrine called Immaculate Conception.

One of Islam’s main teachings is that Jesus (Issa) was merely a prophet and not God. Like you pointed out, the antichrist will “deny the Father and the Son.” Islam claims that Jesus did not die neither did he resurrect, which makes the whole premise of Christian salvation null and void. When the Mahdi arrives during the tribulation anyone who believes that Jesus is God, that He died and rose again will be killed. This is what the whole battle is about: the deity of Christ! Satan knows that Eternal Life is only by believing that Jesus Christ died and rose again as a perfect sin offering for all mankind. Once he can make you disbelieve or tarnish any part of that, he knows that he’s got you forever.

Islam’s Qur’an asserts that Jesus was not crucified. Rather, the Savior’s death was only “made to appear” as such.

Here is the text in full:

[INDENT]“That they said (in boast), ‘We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Apostle of God’; — But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, But so it was made To appear to them, And those who differ Therein are full of doubts, With no (certain) knowledge, But only conjecture to follow, For of a surety They killed him not: — Nay, God raised him up Unto Himself; and God Is Exalted in Power.”[/INDENT]
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[messiahette]

@Stormtrooper98

Catholics LOVE the Father and the Son aka Trinity.

More like the Quartet than Trinity………

[SIZE=7]Is Mary the co-redemptrix / mediatrix?[/SIZE]

Some Catholics view Mary as a co-redemptrix or a mediatrix who plays a key role in the salvation of mankind. (The suffix -trix is a feminine word ending in Latin, so a redemptrix is a female redeemer, and a mediatrix is a female mediator.)

Within Catholicism, there is a drive to define a new Marian dogma in which Catholics, as a matter of faith, would be obliged to accept these three doctrines: (1) Mary participates in redemption with Jesus Christ, (2) grace is granted by Jesus only through the intercession of Mary, and (3) all prayers from the faithful must flow through Mary, who brings them to the attention of her Son. This movement would, in practice, redefine the Trinity as a kind of Quartet.

The belief in Mary as a co-redemptrix would be in addition to current Catholic teaching on Mary, which states that Mary’s mother conceived her through a virgin birth; that Mary was a virgin perpetually, that she never had intercourse with her husband, Joseph; that she never had children other than Jesus; and that she was sinless and ascended into heaven.

These teachings are more than unscriptural; Scripture directly refutes them.

The idea that Mary is a co-redemptrix or mediatrix contradicts 1 Timothy 2:5, which says, “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.” Jesus is the Mediator. There is no mediator between man and Jesus. Jesus Himself dwells in believers; thus, none is required (Colossians 1:27).

Jesus is the perfect and sole Mediator between man and God because He is the sinless Son of God. Mary was not sinless. There is no Scripture whatsoever to back the claim of Mary’s sinlessness or of her assumption into heaven. This dogma was accepted as a result of papal proclamation. In the biblical narratives, Mary is pictured as a humble and submissive young woman, faithful to God, grasping the implications of what is about to happen to her, and uttering praises and doxologies (Luke 1:46–55). In fact, in her [I]Magnificat[/I], Mary says, “My spirit rejoices in God my Savior” (verse 47). The clear implication of Mary’s calling God her “Savior” is that she recognized her need of salvation. Just like the rest of us, Mary needed a Savior, a Redeemer.

Jesus Himself indicated that Mary holds no special place relative to redemption or mediation. In Matthew 12:47–50, Mary and her other sons were trying to see Jesus while He was teaching. “Someone told him, ‘Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.’ He replied to him, ‘Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?’ Pointing to his disciples, he said, ‘Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.’”

Later, at the foot of the cross, Mary is a grief-stricken mother. She did not suffer for mankind as a whole; she clearly suffered her own pain and mourning. She is one of the people receiving salvation from Jesus, not a contributor to His work. She is anguished and must be cared for by the apostle John.

After Jesus’ death and resurrection, Mary was part of the community of believers continuing in prayer and supplication prior to Pentecost (Acts 1:14). Mary is “most blessed among women” (Luke 1:42) because she was the mother of the Messiah. But she is not divine and cannot be seen as part of the Trinity. She did not redeem us from sin and cannot be made part of the redemptive process.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Mary-redemptrix-mediatrix.html

[Shaka]

@Stormtrooper98

Brethren and disbelievers, I greet you all in peace. So apparently this happened at a catholic church. In what is clearly yet another case of mass hysteria (like we witnessed a few years ago at Starehe Girls where girls genuinely believed they were getting sick from a mysterious, non-existent disease), someone claimed to see the Virgin Mary, started wailing and triggered an outbreak amongst the Christian faithfuls who all too eager to share in the experience, also started screaming and yelling all over the place. You can see even the priests at the front are a bit stunned by the bizarre turn of events and are quite clueless on what to do.

[MEDIA=twitter]1621083235768991744[/MEDIA]

Now imagine if we never caught this on camera? These Christians would happily run home that day and tell all and sundry what they had “witnessed”. We would literally have no way of verifying anything they said. All we would have is a large group of people repeating the same thing, who genuinely believe they saw Virgin Mary. This story would be repeated to children and eventually it would be an established fact that Virgin Mary appeared in Kasarani.

This brings me to 1st Corinthians 15 where Apostle Paul asserts that Christ died for our sins, was buried, raised on the 3rd day and appeared to several groups of people amongst them “more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.” I really wonder did Jesus genuinely appear to these 500 brothers and sisters or someone saw a strange cloud, or possibly even hallucinated (after maybe an intense session of fasting, prayer and dancing, use of psychedellics etc) started screaming triggering mass hysteria? What do you think guys, did these 500 brethren whoever they are, really see Jesus?

All these appearances in catholic church have one thing in common, they tend to happen as a reflection on the wall, and they are pictures of Mary. Remember the church windows has mosaic paintings of Mary and all you need is a kind light through the widow and project an image on the wall.
But there is one manifestation of angels I saw during baptism in a river and it looked real. Two large human like balls of light shining and moving around with the two guys being baptized. Hii ya katoliki ni sign for God can manifest himself in any way

[Stormtrooper98]

@messiahette

More like the Quartet than Trinity………

[SIZE=7]Is Mary the co-redemptrix / mediatrix?[/SIZE]

Some Catholics view Mary as a co-redemptrix or a mediatrix who plays a key role in the salvation of mankind. (The suffix -trix is a feminine word ending in Latin, so a redemptrix is a female redeemer, and a mediatrix is a female mediator.)

Within Catholicism, there is a drive to define a new Marian dogma in which Catholics, as a matter of faith, would be obliged to accept these three doctrines: (1) Mary participates in redemption with Jesus Christ, (2) grace is granted by Jesus only through the intercession of Mary, and (3) all prayers from the faithful must flow through Mary, who brings them to the attention of her Son. This movement would, in practice, redefine the Trinity as a kind of Quartet.

The belief in Mary as a co-redemptrix would be in addition to current Catholic teaching on Mary, which states that Mary’s mother conceived her through a virgin birth; that Mary was a virgin perpetually, that she never had intercourse with her husband, Joseph; that she never had children other than Jesus; and that she was sinless and ascended into heaven.

These teachings are more than unscriptural; Scripture directly refutes them.

The idea that Mary is a co-redemptrix or mediatrix contradicts 1 Timothy 2:5, which says, “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.” Jesus is the Mediator. There is no mediator between man and Jesus. Jesus Himself dwells in believers; thus, none is required (Colossians 1:27).

Jesus is the perfect and sole Mediator between man and God because He is the sinless Son of God. Mary was not sinless. There is no Scripture whatsoever to back the claim of Mary’s sinlessness or of her assumption into heaven. This dogma was accepted as a result of papal proclamation. In the biblical narratives, Mary is pictured as a humble and submissive young woman, faithful to God, grasping the implications of what is about to happen to her, and uttering praises and doxologies (Luke 1:46–55). In fact, in her [I]Magnificat[/I], Mary says, “My spirit rejoices in God my Savior” (verse 47). The clear implication of Mary’s calling God her “Savior” is that she recognized her need of salvation. Just like the rest of us, Mary needed a Savior, a Redeemer.

Jesus Himself indicated that Mary holds no special place relative to redemption or mediation. In Matthew 12:47–50, Mary and her other sons were trying to see Jesus while He was teaching. “Someone told him, ‘Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.’ He replied to him, ‘Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?’ Pointing to his disciples, he said, ‘Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.’”

Later, at the foot of the cross, Mary is a grief-stricken mother. She did not suffer for mankind as a whole; she clearly suffered her own pain and mourning. She is one of the people receiving salvation from Jesus, not a contributor to His work. She is anguished and must be cared for by the apostle John.

After Jesus’ death and resurrection, Mary was part of the community of believers continuing in prayer and supplication prior to Pentecost (Acts 1:14). Mary is “most blessed among women” (Luke 1:42) because she was the mother of the Messiah. But she is not divine and cannot be seen as part of the Trinity. She did not redeem us from sin and cannot be made part of the redemptive process.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Mary-redemptrix-mediatrix.html

bro, all these things are just technicalities. Catholics believe the core Christian teachings which are: Jesus died for our sins, was crucified, buried and resurrected on the 3rd day. To all Catholics, JESUS IS GOD. They believe the same thing you do only that they add all these other pagan stuff about immaculate conception and saints which is understandable considering the Roman empire was pagan and polytheistic before Christianity. We know Christianity as well was influenced by paganism because we can see virgin birth, magi (astrologers), star reading all made it into the gospel of Matthew. In a way Christianity was “Judaism Lite” meant for the Roman empire who couldn’t keep up with true Judaism. Christianity got rid of Kosher meals, circumcision, strict Sabbath, and strict monotheism (which is true but I know you will not accept this). Catholics are your friend, your real “enemies” are yes the Muslims and the Jews who, despite being God’s chosen people, totally REJECT THE DIVINITY OF JESUS without any debate about it.

[Stormtrooper98]

@Shaka

All these appearances in catholic church have one thing in common, they tend to happen as a reflection on the wall, and they are pictures of Mary. Remember the church windows has mosaic paintings of Mary and all you need is a kind light through the widow and project an image on the wall.
But there is one manifestation of angels I saw during baptism in a river and it looked real. Two large human like balls of light shining and moving around with the two guys being baptized. Hii ya katoliki ni sign for God can manifest himself in any way

eh, you saw angels??

[Stormtrooper98]

@messiahette

Actually Catholics believe that Mary was a co-redemptor with Christ; that she also played a role in redemption because her own birth was also a virgin birth just like Jesus. This is the false Roman Catholic doctrine called Immaculate Conception.

One of Islam’s main teachings is that Jesus (Issa) was merely a prophet and not God. Like you pointed out, the antichrist will “deny the Father and the Son.” Islam claims that Jesus did not die neither did he resurrect, which makes the whole premise of Christian salvation null and void. When the Mahdi arrives during the tribulation anyone who believes that Jesus is God, that He died and rose again will be killed. This is what the whole battle is about: the deity of Christ! Satan knows that Eternal Life is only by believing that Jesus Christ died and rose again as a perfect sin offering for all mankind. Once he can make you disbelieve or tarnish any part of that, he knows that he’s got you forever.

Islam’s Qur’an asserts that Jesus was not crucified. Rather, the Savior’s death was only “made to appear” as such.

Here is the text in full:

[INDENT]“That they said (in boast), ‘We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Apostle of God’; — But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, But so it was made To appear to them, And those who differ Therein are full of doubts, With no (certain) knowledge, But only conjecture to follow, For of a surety They killed him not: — Nay, God raised him up Unto Himself; and God Is Exalted in Power.”[/INDENT]
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I was in an online debate with a muslim girl and that’s what she said they know about Jesus. She insisted it is true because prophet Muhammad received it from an angel.

[sperminator]

Isn’t this light from outside passing through the coloured windows

[Willywonka]

Is this real? Then satanic because in biblical theology Christ is the only redeemer sole redeemer so this idea of deifying Mary into a goddess is so gross and paganism

[Shaka]

@Stormtrooper98

eh, you saw angels??

Not in person, it was a video

[messiahette]

@Stormtrooper98

bro, all these things are just technicalities. Catholics believe the core Christian teachings which are: Jesus died for our sins, was crucified, buried and resurrected on the 3rd day. To all Catholics, JESUS IS GOD. They believe the same thing you do only that they add all these other pagan stuff about immaculate conception and saints which is understandable considering the Roman empire was pagan and polytheistic before Christianity. We know Christianity as well was influenced by paganism because we can see virgin birth, magi (astrologers), star reading all made it into the gospel of Matthew. In a way Christianity was “Judaism Lite” meant for the Roman empire who couldn’t keep up with true Judaism. Christianity got rid of Kosher meals, circumcision, strict Sabbath, and strict monotheism (which is true but I know you will not accept this). Catholics are your friend, your real “enemies” are yes the Muslims and the Jews who, despite being God’s chosen people, totally REJECT THE DIVINITY OF JESUS without any debate about it.

Jews are not enemies of Christianity. Their current denial of the deity of Christ is for a limited time period, until all the Gentiles who are supposed to accept Christ enter and the door of mercy is shut. Jews will accept Jesus Christ during the tribulation but they will be martyred by the Mahdi’s army (with the full consent and assistance of the Catholic Church just like they did during the Holocaust). It’s interesting how we have this great overlap between Christian and Islamic end time eschatology.

It is narrated in the hadith that the Prophet of Allah said: “The Hour will not begin until you fight the Jews, until a Jew will hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say: ‘O Muslim, O slave of Allah, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

Matt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!

[Ndindu]

Haki nani aliroga negroes?

Why does the negro have cockroach brains.

[Christ_the_King]

There are not many religions that disgust me the way Catholicism does. Who in their right mind decided that from now on, we are going to pray to Mary? I have respect for her but she was a sinner just like us.
As for that clip maze, I am seriously disappointed in Kenyans.

[messiahette]

@Christ the King

There are not many religions that disgust me the way Catholicism does. Who in their right mind decided that from now on, we are going to pray to Mary? I have respect for her but she was a sinner just like us.

It’s the devil behind all of it. For me, Islam is the most repugnant ideology I have ever come across. I’m literally traumatized by reading the Qu’ran and Hadiths. Catholicism is a close second. I love Catholics and Muslim people because they are God’s creation, but the theology is what’s abhorrent….