To all motor vehicle owners

patco

Village Chief
#2
@Simiyu22 still insists that the principle hasn't changed :

https://www.kenyatalk.com/index.php...h-the-2021-tesla-model-s.177985/#post-3097393



Principle hasn’t changed.



Cars are faster and more efficient because of electronics so you can't say that the principle hasn't changed. In fact it has been altered by electronics.

All the different types of engine setups today are guided by the electronic system in use.

And now the combustion engine is out and and in comes the electronic digital motor !

Mechanic amerushwa nje kabisa. Mtu wa stima ndio amebaki. :D:D

In fact hata leo ukienda kwa mechanic, yule mtu wa stima na ile laptop yake ndio kusema.

Ukipea mechanic Mercedes latest hata hajui anaeza anzia wapi because everything is DIGITAL and COMPUTERIZED.

You have to start with the laptop guy.

The only disadvantage is that cars have become more expensive instead of being cheaper.

In the 1960s and early 70s there was the degree in Mechanical engineering.

Then came Mechatronics in 1969 because electronics ndio kusema. Electronics guide the mechanical aspects.
 

patco

Village Chief
#8
We ni mse was hospitality industry. Understanding engines is not your forte.
Wewe hata gari hauna. Wewe ni mtu wa nduthi. Hukai mtu amewahi kanyaga mechanic store na kununua auto parts.

Unaongea kuhusu gari za 1934 ati the principle is the same, the principle hasn't changed. :rolleyes:
Simiyu can you get serious.

Nunua gari uirushie maji vibaya ukiosha uende uambiwe umechoma sensor sijui gani. Umeua memory ya push start.

Today it's even worse there are cars you can't just wash anyhow juu ya hizi digital displays on the dashboard. You kill that touchscreen interface na hio gari haitoki hapo. The car is now a smartphone.
 

ChifuMbitika

Village Commissioner
#9
Wewe hata gari hauna. Wewe ni mtu wa nduthi. Hukai mtu amewahi kanyaga mechanic store na kununua auto parts.

Unaongea kuhusu gari za 1934 ati the principle is the same, the principle hasn't changed. :rolleyes:
Simiyu can you get serious.

Nunua gari uirushie maji vibaya ukiosha uende uambiwe umechoma sensor sijui gani. Umeua memory ya push start.

Today it's even worse there are cars you can't just wash anyhow juu ya hizi digital displays on the dashboard. You kill that touchscreen interface na hio gari haitoki hapo. The car is now a smartphone.
True dat broda
 

Simiyu22

Village Sponsor
#10
Wewe hata gari hauna. Wewe ni mtu wa nduthi. Hukai mtu amewahi kanyaga mechanic store na kununua auto parts.

Unaongea kuhusu gari za 1934 ati the principle is the same, the principle hasn't changed. :rolleyes:
Simiyu can you get serious.

Nunua gari uirushie maji vibaya ukiosha uende uambiwe umechoma sensor sijui gani. Umeua memory ya push start.

Today it's even worse there are cars you can't just wash anyhow juu ya hizi digital displays on the dashboard. You kill that touchscreen interface na hio gari haitoki hapo. The car is now a smartphone.
Mimi hata V12 na fix. If only you know. Wacha soon I will start some threads. But sensors is no big deal. Mechanical aspects still power the engine. All sensors do is collect a signal and adjust a mechanical component or send a error code.
 

patco

Village Chief
#11

Juzi tu kulikuwa na njaruo jinga jeuri by name of @ochithunder . I was following his threads closely juu I wanted to hear the price of repairing his BMW in Kenya. :D

And the first thing he used to say was he can't find a qualified mechanic in Nairobi! Which is true. Even in Europe mechanic wamekuwa nadra.

Juu enyewe the modern BMW is one of the most complicated electronic gadgets in the universe. And I could tell he was having a hard time maintaining that vehicle in Nairobi. Halafu @Simiyu22 anafikiria ati mechanic ni mechanic tu, ati the principle is the same.

Ati mechanic alifungua duka 1993 anawezana na gari za leo.
 

ChifuMbitika

Village Commissioner
#12
Juzi tu kulikuwa na njaruo jinga jeuri by name of @ochithunder . I was following his threads closely juu I wanted to hear the price of repairing his BMW in Kenya. :D

And the first thing he used to say was he can't find a qualified mechanic in Nairobi! Which is true. Even in Europe mechanic wamekuwa nadra.

Juu enyewe the modern BMW is one of the most complicated electronic gadgets in the universe. And I could tell he was having a hard time maintaining that vehicle in Nairobi. Halafu @Simiyu22 anafikiria ati mechanic ni mechanic tu, ati the principle is the same.

Ati mechanic alifungua duka 1993 anawezana na gari za leo.
A deceased friend of mine who used to be a mechanic was a very sincere man. He always told me he could repair any vehicle made before 1995 but ikifika kwa automatic vehicles and ones filled with sensors anawachia dot-com.
 

Simiyu22

Village Sponsor
#13
Juzi tu kulikuwa na njaruo jinga jeuri by name of @ochithunder . I was following his threads closely juu I wanted to hear the price of repairing his BMW in Kenya. :D

And the first thing he used to say was he can't find a qualified mechanic in Nairobi! Which is true. Even in Europe mechanic wamekuwa nadra.

Juu enyewe the modern BMW is one of the most complicated electronic gadgets in the universe. And I could tell he was having a hard time owning that vehicle in Nairobi. Halafu @Simiyu22 anafikiria ati mechanic ni mechanic tu, ati the principle is the same.

Ati mechanic alifungua duka 1993 anawezana na gari za leo.
If you go buying a 2019 M5 and then taking to a shady tree mechanic utalia brazza. Ochithunder was very right what he was doing. Either take it to BMW Kenya or fix it yourself kama chapa ni strain or its a hobby. Maintaining the car is the key. Alafu invest in a mid-level Obd reader.

Btw do you know you need specialty tools fo fix even a simple BMW ( start even with a torx screwdriver and socket) . Sasa huyo makanika wa Ruai atazitoa wapi. They dont even use Obd readers. Just guesswork. Electronics are PIA even at the dealer in newer Beemers. You find you have to drop your car off and pick it after a week, and the problem pops back again. Hata hao wanashindwa. Kwanza going anything past 6 cylinders you will need a separate job to maintain that car after a certain mileage.
 
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patco

Village Chief
#15
A deceased friend of mine who used to be a mechanic was a very sincere man. He always told me he could repair any vehicle made before 1995 but ikifika kwa automatic vehicles and ones filled with sensors anawachia dot-com.

Wengine wanaharibu gari Kenya ni car wash. And many Kenyans are clueless.

Unakuta mama mbirrionea amewacha porsche cayenne hapo car wash. Ndio ni second hand but still a very complex machine.

Jamaa wa carwash anakuja na ndoo na omo anaanza kusugua kiti na maji nilimwuuliza what the fuak dude???

Hujui hio kiti imebeba computer ya hvac na inaeza short? That car seat has a very delicate and complicated computer.

So the lady ends up with seats that don't work but labda hata hajui kuzitumia anyway. The seat keeps sending error codes to the main car brain. Mama anashindwa kwani hii gari na ni mpya....

 

ChifuMbitika

Village Commissioner
#16
If you go buying a 2019 M5 and then taking to a shady tree mechanic utalia brazza. Ochithunder was very right what he was doing. Either take it to BMW Kenya or fix it yourself kama chapa ni strain or its a hobby. Maintaining the car is the key. Alafu invest in a mid-level Obd reader.

Btw do you know you need specialty tools fo fix even a simple BMW ( start even with a torx screwdriver) . Sasa huyo makanika wa Ruai atazitoa wapi. They dont even use Obd readers. Just guesswork. Electronics are PIA even at the dealer in newer Beemers. You find you have to drop your car off and pick it after a week, and the problem pops back again. Hata hao wanashindwa. Kwanza going anything past 6 cylinders you will need a separate job to maintain that car after a certain mileage.
I hear that maintaining a BMW is like maintaining a slayqueen from Westlands.
 

Simiyu22

Village Sponsor
#17
I hear that maintaining a BMW is like maintaining a slayqueen from Westlands.
Watu ya Toyora tukae kifande gani?
Toyota, Honda, Subarus , everything Japanese has good engineering for the most part. So reliability is good. German are good if you properly maintain the car. They are over-engineered. It helps if you fix things before they break down ( preventative maintenance). For example check your suspension parts every 50K km and fix if necessary ( cv boots, tie rods, struts....) , Things like waterpump, alternator, sensors like CPS change at 100 K km.
When I say overengineerd, take a look at the following example fixing a position sensor which always fails on .nissans and beemers. On the 3.5L (v6) Nissan, its a easy fix. On a bmw, its a pain. Imagine paying someone.


Nissan ndio hii.




bmw ndio hii

 

patco

Village Chief
#18
@ChifuMbitika hizi ndio viti huwa mnapeleka zikaoshwa na omo hapo car wash. Na hii ni gari ya zamani kidogo. Many ordinary cars today are coming fitted with heated seats of course cheaper but similar in operation.

Na Simiyu hapa anasema ati ako na star ya kufungua.

Ati ametengeneza kama hizi mingi sana. Computer ya kiti ndio hizo ana ng'oa hapo minute 7.20.

Na hio unit moja ya kiti moja, one seat, can be as much as 30k used part plus controller. Brand new labda over $1k.


 

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