The rapture of the church

Mzichi

Village Elder
#23
The elect at that time will be the people(those left behind) and the Jews who will believe in Jesus at that time
How do you come to the conclusion that the elect will be those left behind? We should be careful not to make scriptural conclusions without verbatim scriptural utterance. Especially when there is verbatim text to the contrary
 
#24
There are many things that the enemy has come up with to deceive humanity.Including all religions, excluding Judaism and Christianity.The enemy is spiteful of human beings, and he hates us.
You have to have an open mind to accept the truth.You are a creation of a MIGHTY GOD but yet, you have an enemy.That is the reality of every human.
Look around you and see the creation.How mighty is the GOD of CREATION.I am tempted to throw in some photos.



HE made the lion the king of the jungle.



The lion never eats grass, and doesn't go to a school to learn that it a lion, and should eat meat instead.



We cannot deny this great creation.



Waoh

























And so much more.Worship the creator and not the creation.


All the animals were created for us.But because of disobedience to a MIGHTY and HOLY GOD, we were cast out of the GARDEN of EDEN.
There is a way to be saved out of the sin of mankind, and that is through JESUS CHRIST, who died for man's sin.HE is GOD and HE came as man.HE was the sacrifice for mankind.There is no reason not to be saved by this grace.





There is a reason why we know it is the end time, because end-tme prophesies are being fulfilled.
One of the prophesies that has been fulfilled is that ISRAEL became a nation again in 1948, after being in exile for 2000 years.

(Ezekiel 34:13)
“I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land.”

Deuteronomy 30:3
“Then the LORD your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where He scattered you.”


Read this article please:
https://free.messianicbible.com/feature/november-remind-us-israel/

The end began when Israel became a state in 1948.The next prophesy that is about to be fulfilled is the rebuilding of the third temple in JERUSALEM.
This third temple is where the antichrist(who the JEWS think is the MESSIAH) will declare himself GOD and demand worship from the whole world.
It is possible the antichrist will come in the name of the alien deception, for he will have supernatural powers.


For the antichrist to be revealed, the rapture of the church will have to take place.That is why we know that it is eminent.
This is the time to believe, not to argue.When the antichrist is revealed, he will mark the beginning of a time known as the 7 year tribulation.It will the greatest time of tribulation the earth has ever experienced.

Matthew 24:21-33
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

You will still have a chance to be saved, but you will have to be beheaded for the testimony of JESUS.But you will have to do it.Taking the mark of the beast (666) cannot be an option because that will mean you have taken the identity of satan, and there is no salvation.

We are like in the days of Noah.Noah begged the people to get in the ark, but they refused.Being born again is the ark of today, just like JESUS prophesied about our day today.

Matthew 24:37-39
37 For just like the days of Noah[a] were, so the coming of the Son of Man will be. 38 For in those days before the flood, people[b] were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark. 39 And they knew nothing until the flood came and took them all away.[c] It will be the same at the coming of the Son of Man.[d]

I pray that you make the wise decision.Be blessed
You claim Judaism and Christianity are the only true religions, yet Judaism REJECTS JESUS as the true messiah while Christians insist Jesus is the true messiah. So how can they both be correct???
 
#25
The elect at that time will be the people(those left behind) and the Jews who will believe in Jesus at that time
The Jews literally invented a religion and declared THEMSELVES the chosen people. Even you yourself seem to believe a Jew is a superior person and deserves to enter heaven before you. If I may ask, what is the place of an African in a Jewish heaven? Hehe jibu hiyo swali. If you think you will one day be rubbing shoulders with akina Abraham na Moses you are massively mistaken.
 

Rakii

Senior Villager
#26
what's your take on the conspiracies that the Bible is a collection of Human history?
(but with some "special effects" to make it more interesting)

most of what we are going through has happened many times over and this might just be one of those times.

what if the ending is not about Heaven or Hell but a transition of intelligence from one species to another? (so end of Human Species as the intelligent species)
However no time in history have things happened in such high frequency as those described in Matthew 24,Mark 13 and Luke 21..."The beginning of birth pangs"...Just like the Birth Pangs...as a woman is about to give birth...so do the contractions of her womb...So is the coming of Yeshua Hamashiach
 

mishale

Village Elder
#27
However no time in history have things happened in such high frequency as those described in Matthew 24,Mark 13 and Luke 21..."The beginning of birth pangs"...Just like the Birth Pangs...as a woman is about to give birth...so do the contractions of her womb...So is the coming of Yeshua Hamashiach
in our recorded history.
am sure there have been different civilizations on our planet many of which we don't have the records
 

Hydra

Village Elder
#32
my big question.

will we remember who we were on Earth?

if not, then it all doesn't matter where one ends up.
same with bad memories being erased from those who end up in Heaven and good memories being erased from those who end up in Hell.
Yes we will remember we were on earth. I was reading that Hebrews 12 implies that the saints who went ahead of us still peep at the stuff we do here, but the spiritual side of it.
 

Hydra

Village Elder
#33
We are not yet there, we have been in the period prior to the very last days for the last 2000 years, we still have few main signs before the antichrist, the false prophet are revealed. Out of the 4 signs Jesus gave only 1½ have already happened... I believe Christians will be there during the tribulations but God will preserve them. Remember Jesus says in Matthew that those days of tribulations will be shortened for the sake of the elect.
Remember the passover the plagues hit the Egyptian and spared the Israelites because they were marked.
the elect will not face the tribulation, they will already have been raptured and with Christ in the skies for the 7 years, then after the tribulation the millenial reign will begin here on earth.
 

Hydra

Village Elder
#34
Prophecy is key
Read the more about daniel’s 70 weeks , relate it to the nation of israel (building of the 3rd temple, peace treaty) and you will find out that we are the last generation. There will be peace in israel which will make conditions right for the third temple to be built, look at israel now, they are now stronger as a nation, the only problem they have is the Palestines, but when finally there is peace between those two, just know that the rapture will be at the door.Jesus will come right before the 3rd temple is built(after peace treaty).
Second. God speaks to His people about things to come, and He surely has spoken about this to some of His prophets. Be alert , watch and pray
Those are not the greatest sign, as are the other ones people keep mentioning. Biblically, the sign of the end is THIS WORD SHALL BE PREACHED TO ALL CREATION, THEN THE END SHALL COME.
 

Hydra

Village Elder
#35
Enveee keep on preaching ukitoka hapa enda Kwa sex and relationship. Huko ndio sheitani amejificha. Enda bomoa stronghold ya umalaya.
Kumbe am not the only one that feels as much? Every time I avoid that section, I feel so undefiled. Lakini nikifungua moja tu ya 'osha mecho' ama 'nani amekula hii' kwisha! Maybe am just a baby christian but I also realise that our minds are really powerful in directing our lives.
 

Beenie

Village Elder
#36
Those are not the greatest sign, as are the other ones people keep mentioning. Biblically, the sign of the end is THIS WORD SHALL BE PREACHED TO ALL CREATION, THEN THE END SHALL COME.
Indeed , recently pastor chris preached to over 5 billion souls online, so you can imagine the impact
 

Stanmwa

Village Elder
#37
There are many things that the enemy has come up with to deceive humanity.Including all religions, excluding Judaism and Christianity.The enemy is spiteful of human beings, and he hates us.
You have to have an open mind to accept the truth.You are a creation of a MIGHTY GOD but yet, you have an enemy.That is the reality of every human.
Look around you and see the creation.How mighty is the GOD of CREATION.I am tempted to throw in some photos.



HE made the lion the king of the jungle.



The lion never eats grass, and doesn't go to a school to learn that it a lion, and should eat meat instead.



We cannot deny this great creation.



Waoh

























And so much more.Worship the creator and not the creation.


All the animals were created for us.But because of disobedience to a MIGHTY and HOLY GOD, we were cast out of the GARDEN of EDEN.
There is a way to be saved out of the sin of mankind, and that is through JESUS CHRIST, who died for man's sin.HE is GOD and HE came as man.HE was the sacrifice for mankind.There is no reason not to be saved by this grace.





There is a reason why we know it is the end time, because end-tme prophesies are being fulfilled.
One of the prophesies that has been fulfilled is that ISRAEL became a nation again in 1948, after being in exile for 2000 years.

(Ezekiel 34:13)
“I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land.”

Deuteronomy 30:3
“Then the LORD your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where He scattered you.”


Read this article please:
https://free.messianicbible.com/feature/november-remind-us-israel/

The end began when Israel became a state in 1948.The next prophesy that is about to be fulfilled is the rebuilding of the third temple in JERUSALEM.
This third temple is where the antichrist(who the JEWS think is the MESSIAH) will declare himself GOD and demand worship from the whole world.
It is possible the antichrist will come in the name of the alien deception, for he will have supernatural powers.


For the antichrist to be revealed, the rapture of the church will have to take place.That is why we know that it is eminent.
This is the time to believe, not to argue.When the antichrist is revealed, he will mark the beginning of a time known as the 7 year tribulation.It will the greatest time of tribulation the earth has ever experienced.

Matthew 24:21-33
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

You will still have a chance to be saved, but you will have to be beheaded for the testimony of JESUS.But you will have to do it.Taking the mark of the beast (666) cannot be an option because that will mean you have taken the identity of satan, and there is no salvation.

We are like in the days of Noah.Noah begged the people to get in the ark, but they refused.Being born again is the ark of today, just like JESUS prophesied about our day today.

Matthew 24:37-39
37 For just like the days of Noah[a] were, so the coming of the Son of Man will be. 38 For in those days before the flood, people[b] were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark. 39 And they knew nothing until the flood came and took them all away.[c] It will be the same at the coming of the Son of Man.[d]

I pray that you make the wise decision.Be blessed
In practice, educate me on how Judaism differes from Islam?
 

Bottoms

Village Elder
#38
we surely shall remember who were were.We all shall appear before the judgement of our MIGHTY and HOLY GOD, and we all shall account for our life.
For example, I pray that you may believe in JESUS and be forgiven, like we have.But, for many people who have died in sin, and hence there no longer is a chance for them to repent, they will remember every call for them to repent.Every preacher that they ignored, every conviction in the heart that they dismissed.
Hell is a place of torment, eternal torment.Every chance that you have to repent, do it now that you are alive.It is out of pride that humans refuse to repent.Pride is from the evil satan.
I pray that you will be humble and repent.

This is the parable given by our LORD JESUS.Read it with an open heart.Be blessed.

Luke 16:19-31
The Rich Man and Lazarus
19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’

27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
I find this verse controversial. I thought the Bible says that we will all sleep till the day of judgement. Why was Lazarus given a special treatment... why did he see heaven instead of waiting like others?
 

Bottoms

Village Elder
#39
My take is simple. We believe in the scriptures by faith. Critics of the scriptures ALSO place their faith in other works/readings/ thoughts or ideas as well in order to believe that they are superior to the scriptures. It's a matter of where one has placed his faith.
Does it mean all Muslims , Hindu and Buddhist will go to hell?
 

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