America's 1st black billionaire calls for 14 trillion dollar reparations

montecarlo

Village Elder
#21
Black Americans would dominate Africa good/bad) if they were to go back i.e, Liberia
It's not in our best interest to open the flood gates until we (Africans) have developed a strategy....otherwise, we'd surely be an underclass to BAs.....but eventually the next tech industrial wave in Africa will VERY much be pushed by western diaspora including Black Americans.
This is a very silly opinion...but you are entitled to it
 
#22
I find myself so embarrassed with the anti-black opinions and I find myself believing the stereotypes that Black Americans have against us almost each and every day. It makes it very hard to trust my fellow Kenyans. We need to do better.
You have a point here. There are too many negative perceptions about BAs without necessarily knowing the history behind it. These people have been through psychological hell and back. And they still do. If it was not for their resilience of spirit, BAs as we know them would have gone the native way. I wish more Kenyans spoke about the issue from a deep sense of understanding that the basic unwritten mental attitude of jungus towards BAs has been one of extermination. When the Civil Rights movement became strong in the 60s extermination went chini chini through the mass jailing etc. Take a course in African American History and you will weep in class

The saving grace now is a new generation of jungu kids in their 20s and early 30s whose conscience and personal experiences cannot take the racism sh.iet. That is the reason protets over the George murder have lasted this long. Had it been an entirely BA affair, they would have been stopped last week
 

Mjuaji

Village Sponsor
#23
Nowadays they have evolved, they will go buying Skar Amplifiers and 33 inch rims to rock the hood in their Chevys.

Hebu tafuta page inaitwa bassheads on a budget huko mukuru uone vile these blacks wamerukwa na akili when it comes to car audios
the narratives you guys have are very comical. Very far from reality. Tell us how about blacks being excluded from New Deal policies, GI Bill and other things that built the white middle class. Tell us about "war on drugs" and it actually works. Tell us about the school system and how it is designed to keep blacks undereducated. When they get educated they face an unequal job market.

The white man is not your friend.

If they ever open this can of worms most that money will go to buying Jordans
I was going to answer you but I just realized your name is kaffir !!
 

Mjuaji

Village Sponsor
#24
I agree on the unity of Blacks. But I disagree on the segregationist part. We can use the capital on wallstreet. Its available to anyone. Wallstreet is publicly traded. Open to the public. But you need some financial might. I have seen with my own eyes Indians break into that money and create empires. And is there really a hip-hop lifestyle? Thats just what you see on videos. Most blacks cant afford anything close to that. In fact even those celebrities on the videos cant even afford that. Its all showbiz. Do you really believe mayweather has 10(?) white Chirons?
The surprising part for me is black Kenyans who live in the US working side by side with black Americans who work as hard as them go to same schools and yet they talk of this mythical black American that drives a donk, is high on crack and spends all his money on Jordans.
 

Mjuaji

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#25
The saving grace now is a new generation of jungu kids in their 20s and early 30s whose conscience and personal experiences cannot take the racism sh.iet.
For every woke young white there is a equally racist white supremacists with power like Stephen Miller and Barr, Sessions who are puting in measures to create a permanent white supremacists republican regime. They are arming 3 Percenters, Oath Keepers, Proud Boys. They are getting rid of voting rights for rural blacks.
 
#26
For every woke young white there is a equally racist white supremacists with power like Stephen Miller and Barr, Sessions who are puting in measures to create a permanent white supremacists republican regime. They are arming 3 Percenters, Oath Keepers, Proud Boys. They are getting rid of voting rights for rural blacks.
It is complicated and rather sad. The world still needs one superpower that can stand as a beacon for the oppressed. The civil rights movement caused the US to evolve to be regarded as a voice of reason, attempted fairness and equality.

Who will step into this large shoe
 

Purple

Moderator
Staff member
#27
You have a point here. There are too many negative perceptions about BAs without necessarily knowing the history behind it. These people have been through psychological hell and back. And they still do. If it was not for their resilience of spirit, BAs as we know them would have gone the native way. I wish more Kenyans spoke about the issue from a deep sense of understanding that the basic unwritten mental attitude of jungus towards BAs has been one of extermination. When the Civil Rights movement became strong in the 60s extermination went chini chini through the mass jailing etc. Take a course in African American History and you will weep in class

The saving grace now is a new generation of jungu kids in their 20s and early 30s whose conscience and personal experiences cannot take the racism sh.iet. That is the reason protets over the George murder have lasted this long. Had it been an entirely BA affair, they would have been stopped last week
I took so many African American classes in undergrad, literally most of my required core curriculum courses in language & history, I was able to fulfill them with AA classes. However towards my final year I just kind of drifted away and focused on my senior project in science. Yes, we cried alot in class infact after each lesson it would take me hours to regain composure coz the material was so heavy. It sounds like you've been there. I HATED white people, every white person I saw was like the devil. I was mad and angry at the world. Thank God my career took me in a different direction.

There's a way in which the black college experience can really cloud your perception of the world. These liberal profs are indoctrinating an entire generation of impressionable young adults into angry mercenaries of violent "social justice warriors." I wish we could divert those energies into useful pursuits, case in point how Asians have dominated the American health care, tech and engineering scene. The only way black people can demand world-wide respect is by rising above their victim hood status and becoming model citizens. This other BS they teach us in school is designed to keep us poor and angry forever. Education, not just AA history, but useful education that leads to high paying jobs is how we shall lift ourselves and each other from the shackles of poverty.
 

Arnono

Village Elder
#28
Nyinyi mna ogea kuhusu Yunares states in Eastlands we have a human ticking bomb. In 5-10 we will come to terms with what is happening in US. Failed single parenthood ndio itakuwa ikirun mtaa. Sasa hii Nina save mdogo ni hame kabla hizi vìpiii Zi mature.
True.
At home many people have embraced this "freedom" and "empowerment" with the result of many broken marriages and single parenthood-a recipe for disaster.
 

Kaffir

Village Elder
#29
the narratives you guys have are very comical. Very far from reality. Tell us how about blacks being excluded from New Deal policies, GI Bill and other things that built the white middle class. Tell us about "war on drugs" and it actually works. Tell us about the school system and how it is designed to keep blacks undereducated. When they get educated they face an unequal job market.

The white man is not your friend.



I was going to answer you but I just realized your name is kaffir !!

OOh how will I survive without it !
 

Arnono

Village Elder
#30
I took so many African American classes in undergrad, literally most of my required core curriculum courses in language & history, I was able to fulfill them with AA classes. However towards my final year I just kind of drifted away and focused on my senior project in science. Yes, we cried alot in class infact after each lesson it would take me hours to regain composure coz the material was so heavy. It sounds like you've been there. I HATED white people, every white person I saw was like the devil. I was mad and angry at the world. Thank God my career took me in a different direction.

There's a way in which the black college experience can really cloud your perception of the world. These liberal profs are indoctrinating an entire generation of impressionable young adults into angry mercenaries of violent "social justice warriors." I wish we could divert those energies into useful pursuits, case in point how Asians have dominated the American health care, tech and engineering scene. The only way black people can demand world-wide respect is by rising above their victim hood status and becoming model citizens. These other BS they teach us in school is designed to keep us poor and angry forever. Education, not just AA history, but useful education that leads to high paying jobs is how we shall lift ourselves and each other from the shackles of poverty.
I respect your way of reasoning.
However, in order to be respected and rise above victimization in a foreign country, you should have rose above the same at home first. All those Asians that are in the US have majorly rose above the shackles of poverty, ignorance and disease. Which African countries can pride themselves in that? You see how we are shackled in neocolonialism and greed? How can the black man in America rise if he/she sees fellow Africans dying from famines, from stupid tribal wars and from reckless governance fuelled by selfish interests the black elites?
 

Arnono

Village Elder
#31
It doesn't m


Doesn't matter what they'll do with their money. What matters is where they will be 50 years later after compensation. But I saw a senseful person saying that the only way to escape racism is to go back to Africa and try their best to build to it.
True,
The black american will find it really difficult to gain the respect of others if where he considers home is in disarray.
 

NYC/NBO

Village Elder
#32
I respect your way of reasoning.
However, in order to be respected and rise above victimization in a foreign country, you should have rose above the same at home first. All those Asians that are in the US have majorly rose above the shackles of poverty, ignorance and disease. Which African countries can pride themselves in that? You see how we are shackled in neocolonialism and greed? How can the black man in America rise if he/she sees fellow Africans dying from famines, from stupid tribal wars and from reckless governance fuelled by selfish interests the black elites?
What's crazy here is that it's true. Africa will need to rise up for white supremacy to die. This is a truly global issue. These are just ideas but I have BA friends who believe that building AFRICA should be part of the reparations. i.e, 12 Trillion goes to BAs over 20 years and 2 Trillion goes directly to African investment. Of course, there are also many BAs who think that non ADOS should NOT get reparations but I find it comforting that even BAs are willing to use America's wealth/might to transfer resources to build Africa because they see the bigger vision.
 

WongNamba

Village Elder
#34
Thats the point, that money wont be useful in the longrun to elevate black standards. Wish ingepewa in collective groups kama chamas/communities so that they can do something constructive. But as long that money is paid to individuals, expect alot of new hiphop videos
:D
 

Mjuaji

Village Sponsor
#35
What's crazy here is that it's true. Africa will need to rise up for white supremacy to die. This is a truly global issue. These are just ideas but I have BA friends who believe that building AFRICA should be part of the reparations. i.e, 12 Trillion goes to BAs over 20 years and 2 Trillion goes directly to African investment. Of course, there are also many BAs who think that non ADOS should NOT get reparations but I find it comforting that even BAs are willing to use America's wealth/might to transfer resources to build Africa because they see the bigger vision.
There will be no reparations. White man will give us nothing willingly. Even what is rightfully ours. Liberation of African countries from IMF/WB/Francafrique debt and liberation of blacks in the diaspora will come through unity of all blacks, pressure and willingness of our elites to accept a little bit of discomfort.
 

Mbeta meo

Senior Villager
#36
I agree on the unity of Blacks. But I disagree on the segregationist part. We can use the capital on wallstreet. Its available to anyone. Wallstreet is publicly traded. Open to the public. But you need some financial might. I have seen with my own eyes Indians break into that money and create empires. And is there really a hip-hop lifestyle? Thats just what you see on videos. Most blacks cant afford anything close to that. In fact even those celebrities on the videos cant even afford that. Its all showbiz. Do you really believe mayweather has 10(?) white Chirons?
They don't buy from each other as much as possible,the money they spend on businesses not black owned is too much compared to the money they could spend on black businesses offering same kind of goods but of a matching or even higher quality.I speak of hip-hop culture because those famous rappers freely promote brands of other people instead of their own.They have done it before,they had a black wall street and white people burned it down.Also as you know teenagers are impressionable,so if rappers didn't promote a destructive lifestyle,the majority of black teens wouldn't be growing up and living a lifestyle that leads to death or jail.
 

Simiyu22

Village Sponsor
#37
They don't buy from each other as much as possible,the money they spend on businesses not black owned is too much compared to the money they could spend on black businesses offering same kind of goods but of a matching or even higher quality.I speak of hip-hop culture because those famous rappers freely promote brands of other people instead of their own.They have done it before,they had a black wall street and white people burned it down.Also as you know teenagers are impressionable,so if rappers didn't promote a destructive lifestyle,the majority of black teens wouldn't be growing up and living a lifestyle that leads to death or jail.
Your argument is too broad. A black business vs walmart? Or a black owned drink company vs pepsi? You need to consider the distribution of black people when making such arguments. What I mean is, open a black business, but dont aim to cater mostly(or exclusively) to black people. Thats a recipe for failure. In fact I have relatives who have failed in business for that very reason. Opened a business, mostly black customers, but black customers were just not enough to sustain the business. It should be open to everyone. As for rappers, they are businessmen first. They need to survive. Limiting them to black businesses is limiting their earning potential. What you also need to remember is the majority of hiphop culture (accessories, clothing, shoes, music downloads,commercials,etc) is purchased by white people. Hiphop is an expression of culture first. Not a cause. So the destructive lifestyle is there first, the music just exposes it. To prevent young black people from jail, you need to fix the streets.
 

Mbeta meo

Senior Villager
#39
Your argument is too broad. A black business vs walmart? Or a black owned drink company vs pepsi? You need to consider the distribution of black people when making such arguments. What I mean is, open a black business, but dont aim to cater mostly(or exclusively) to black people. Thats a recipe for failure. In fact I have relatives who have failed in business for that very reason. Opened a business, mostly black customers, but black customers were just not enough to sustain the business. It should be open to everyone. As for rappers, they are businessmen first. They need to survive. Limiting them to black businesses is limiting their earning potential. What you also need to remember is the majority of hiphop culture (accessories, clothing, shoes, music downloads,commercials,etc) is purchased by white people. Hiphop is an expression of culture first. Not a cause. So the destructive lifestyle is there first, the music just exposes it. To prevent young black people from jail, you need to fix the streets.
I'm not saying other races won't be allowed to shop at black businesses,they are more than welcome.They will liberate themselves through economics if they unite,as for hip-hop,Blacks don't own the labels,distribution companies,licensing companies etc,so since they don't control it then they aren't shaping the culture.As many are aware,when gangster rap first emerged,there were protests against it by the older generation at the time.Now those protests have been vindicated by the effects of the music has had on the black American community.There are other factors that have contributed to their plight but the pioneers of gangster rap have purposely destroyed their own people for a paycheck and who knows what else.
 

Simiyu22

Village Sponsor
#40
I'm not saying other races won't be allowed to shop at black businesses,they are more than welcome.They will liberate themselves through economics if they unite,as for hip-hop,Blacks don't own the labels,distribution companies,licensing companies etc,so since they don't control it then they aren't shaping the culture.As many are aware,when gangster rap first emerged,there were protests against it by the older generation at the time.Now those protests have been vindicated by the effects of the music has had on the black American community.There are other factors that have contributed to their plight but the pioneers of gangster rap have purposely destroyed their own people for a paycheck and who knows what else.
I will say one thing. Running a business is a difficult affair. The big corporations usually eat business owners alive. Instead I prefer those big corporations to open the doors to black people in the corporate ladder. Extend the same opportunities they do to white people. That in itself will be a liberation. Then the chasm of supporting black businesses, will be neutralized. Because, you will be supporting black people. In fact, to a much larger extent. Have you ever looked up the genetic color makeup of google, amazon, Facebook, Nike.....at the operations level? Where do you think white people get their financial might from. Owning businesses or compounded mid-high income career domination?
 

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